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Mar 19 2023 06:02pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ 18 Mar 2023 04:23)
China has a space station, and subways that look like this: https://i.imgur.com/9PoVRuE.png

America has subways that look like this: https://twitter.com/trench_baby24/status/1608501145386762242


Infrastructure which was built 10 years ago is more shiny and fancy than infrastructure which was built 100 years ago, what a surprise...
Also note how there are some 16 surveillance cameras in just this single picture of a Chinese subway station, lmao!

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 19 2023 06:03pm
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Quote (kusotarre1 @ Mar 18 2023 04:23pm)
Ok? It's a sewer with gas in it.

China has a space station, and subways that look like this: https://i.imgur.com/9PoVRuE.png

America has subways that look like this: https://twitter.com/trench_baby24/status/1608501145386762242


Rofl at communist dictatorship worship. All you need is a few pretty lights to distract you from all that surveillance. Just in that one photo alone is 10+ cameras lol. You can't use the rest room without xin approving it.
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Pretty sure it's super shitty in Djunioristan
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Pretty sure it's super shitty in Djunioristan


*Buthurt Whataboutism noises*

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 19 2023 05:02pm)
Infrastructure which was built 10 years ago is more shiny and fancy than infrastructure which was built 100 years ago, what a surprise...
Also note how there are some 16 surveillance cameras in just this single picture of a Chinese subway station, lmao!

China has a fucking army of people who, in tier 1-3 cities at least, go around touching up every single little public space so it looks like new.

People even make fun of it, calling it a New Deal-like make-work program where people get paid to take down the plaster on a wall and re-do it all every 6 months. (edit: tbc, that's not what the New Deal was, but that's the meme)

American infrastructure is shit not because it's old, but because it's not immediately profitable.

Also, who cares about cameras? Chinese surveillance is actually pretty fragmented and performative. In China, municipal doesn't really talk to provincial which doesn't really talk to federal authorities. Completely unlike GB or USA, which are nearly panopticons in comparison. Fusion centers exist in every major American city, which staff hundreds of people each and whose goal is to integrate all knowledge between the local police department, the FBI, BPS, INS, etc. Nothing like this exists in China. Besides, without cameras, how would you get your 6 year old anecdotes from a country with 1.4 billion people that you base all your garbage takes on?:

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Dont know how accurate the numbers are since I just Googled it quickly but I read China has around 200 million CCTV cameras, and the US has about 50 million so it doesn't seem that crazy in comparison if you account for population difference

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Also, who cares about cameras?


You downplay the fact that the Chinese government puts cameras everywhere as if their people were all would-be criminals who needed to be watched constantly.
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Quote (kusotarre1 @ Mar 17 2023 10:36pm)
Your inclination to try and tear others down by scouring the internet for years or even decades old nonsense is a very Western attitude. Since very few Westerners can honestly say that they expect the politicians to represent them, that they expect their children to be happy and safe, that they expect to retire securely and enjoy old age, the best sort of palliative they can come up with is to demonize people who are trying to do better.


Naw.

Very few people in the West care enough about China to want to demonize it.

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You downplay the fact that the Chinese government puts cameras everywhere as if their people were all would-be criminals who needed to be watched constantly.


Well that is how they roll. Probably why you seldom get mugged or rape since there are some pretty draconian laws against those crimes and with Cameras, people will think twice.
Similar to Singapore.
You will think twice about raping and assualting a girl since the max sentence is 24 strokes of cane and 24 years in prison.
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