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Mar 13 2017 12:51pm
>I didn't go to school for journalism, but I don't see why providing some more context is a bad thing
>They never published the allegations as true. In fact they explicitly mentioned that they were unsubstantiated.



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Quote (IceMage @ 13 Mar 2017 14:37)
I didn't go to school for journalism, but I don't see why providing some more context is a bad thing. These allegations were circulating in Washington for months, something those of us outside the bubble aren't privy to. CNN made it abundantly clear what information was out there and what information they could not verify. The main point of their report was that Trump was presented information on possible blackmail material. Plus, intelligence sources have corroborated some aspects of the Russian dossier.



The main point of their article was that Trump and Obama were briefed on the possible blackmail material. CNN shouldn't be blamed when idiots(much like yourself) don't critically evaluate a report and take it to mean something it never said.

too bad buzzfeed 2.0 got thrown under the bus by NYT and everyone else for running with it in any fashion. no one would touch it because it was a a joke of a 'dossier' but they couldn't help themselves.
they're to blame for their horrible reporting and decision-making over the past 18 months (as you're too blame with being wrong about everything over the same time frame :lol: )
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Stop discussing with the sheep herd. Let CNN fall and Trump fix America. These discussions are nothing but a time waste.

i think this is a proper sentiment to have towards said sheep herd:


Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Mar 2017 14:51)
>I didn't go to school for journalism, but I don't see why providing some more context is a bad thing
>They never published the allegations as true. In fact they explicitly mentioned that they were unsubstantiated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp6rVrGmvMs

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too bad buzzfeed 2.0 got thrown under the bus by NYT and everyone else for running with it in any fashion. no one would touch it because it was a a joke of a 'dossier' but they couldn't help themselves.
they're to blame for their horrible reporting and decision-making over the past 18 months (as you're too blame with being wrong about everything over the same time frame :lol: )

i think this is a proper sentiment to have towards said sheep herd:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqkZdsXUEAEU1F6.jpg


kek


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too bad buzzfeed 2.0 got thrown under the bus by NYT and everyone else for running with it in any fashion. no one would touch it because it was a a joke of a 'dossier' but they couldn't help themselves.
they're to blame for their horrible reporting and decision-making over the past 18 months (as you're too blame with being wrong about everything over the same time frame :lol: )


NYT is fake news, why would you believe anything they say?

CNN's report was truthful and accurate. You haven't posted any evidence to the contrary.

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NYT is fake news, why would you believe anything they say?

CNN's report was truthful and accurate. You haven't posted any evidence to the contrary.


CNN reported on the dossier as containing credible allegations of pissgate, when they were contained in an annex as specific examples of disinformation and nonsense. They lent their media clout to advancing pissgate rumours just like they're still advancing russian conspiracy theories, hiding behind the excuse of 'unverified' when its the explicit responsibility of journalists to vet their sources and not publish unverified rumour and innuendo and gossip. Their report was false and irresponsible, malicious and shameful.
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Mar 13 2017 01:32pm
Quote (IceMage @ 13 Mar 2017 15:17)
NYT is fake news, why would you believe anything they say?

CNN's report was truthful and accurate. You haven't posted any evidence to the contrary.

when even #fakenews tells buzzfeed 2.0 to knock it off its a bad look

>Truthfully reporting on a discredited document :lol:
oh im sorry how did you phrase it "truthfully talked in reference to it for several news cycles but didnt report on it"
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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 13 2017 02:21pm)
CNN reported on the dossier as containing credible allegations of pissgate, when they were contained in an annex as specific examples of disinformation and nonsense. They lent their media clout to advancing pissgate rumours just like they're still advancing russian conspiracy theories, hiding behind the excuse of 'unverified' when its the explicit responsibility of journalists to vet their sources and not publish unverified rumour and innuendo and gossip. Their report was false and irresponsible, malicious and shameful.


Your characterization of their reporting is false. They specifically said they wouldn't comment on the allegations contained in the Buzzfeed report.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/

You can take issue with mentioning the Buzzfeed report at all, but that's good reporting. Why don't you quote the false information in the article for us?

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Your characterization of their reporting is false. They specifically said they wouldn't comment on the allegations contained in the Buzzfeed report.


Because like I said, they were reporting on the dossier as containing those allegations as credible. It doesn't matter whether they cover themselves by refusing to name specifics and encouraging their readers to wink wink nudge nudge go check out buzzfeed.
They gave it the formality of their journalism and advanced it from a fringe to the mainstream national stage:

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One reason the nation's intelligence chiefs took the extraordinary step of including the synopsis in the briefing documents was to make the President-elect aware that such allegations involving him are circulating among intelligence agencies, senior members of Congress and other government officials in Washington, multiple sources tell CNN
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That said, the synopsis was considered so sensitive it was not included in the classified report about Russian hacking that was more widely distributed, but rather in an annex only shared at the most senior levels of the government: President Obama, the President-elect, and the eight Congressional leaders.


Except thats not at all why the dossier was included. It wasn't extraordinary, and wasn't included to tell him what "allegations were circulating among intelligence agencies", it was mundane fanfics and outlandish conspiracy theories presented purely as examples of the discredited disinformation that were swirling on the internet in places like 4chan, to draw a contrast with the real intelligence.

They conflated the dossier about #goldenshowers with the credible sections of the intelligence report, and presented it as being credible, which it wasn't, and they would know that, if they had vetted their source instead of printing it only knowing "the dossier was in the report, and the report is real", without the context of why it was in there or what it meant.

They specifically presented the bogus fanfic story as being "sensitive classified intelligence", and they were completely wrong.
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I fucking love when commie libtards are clawing each other.
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Quote (Zentard @ Mar 13 2017 11:16am)
''Trying to explain common sense to sheep is like trying to explain paying taxes to a toddler. No matter how well you explain it, they're just going to look at you with a blank stare, cry, piss their pants and go back to their coloring books.''[/SIZE]



What fucked up farm did you grow up on?

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