Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 17 2017 01:33pm)

pizzagate was fake news. reports about trump paying russian hookers to golden shower a hotel bedroom in which obama had (allegedly) stayed some months before is just as wild a story as pizzagate. if mainstreammedia wasnt so biased against trump that they are willing to believe any absurd news that is bad for him, nobody would give this story any credit.

likewise, both campaigns knew about the voting system in place, which is the electoral college. therefore, both campaigns tried to maximize their electoral vote, not the popular vote. hence, no one knows what would have happened if both candidates had fought for the popular vote; for example if trump had campaigned in california and new york and dallas and so on. therefore, the 3 million more popular votes for clinton dont mean jackshit. they are irrelevant.

but maybe those two points are a little too nunced for you to understand.





well, when it comes to representing and enforcing their respective countries' interestes abroad, putin is without a doubt better than obama. (I dont know enough about russian domestic policy to compare it to obamas...)

besides that.... sometimes breitbart and inforwars do tell the truth - often times in situations where the truth doesnt fit the liberal narrative. conversely, CNN and the other mainstream media mostly dont tell blatant lies, but often enough hold back important info so that the report gets skewed and biased in the desired direction. yes, CNN is, overall, more serious and trustworthy than breitbart. but not everything CNN tells you is the truth, and not everything breitbart reports on is fake news. I'd even dare to say that breitbart and CNN/the MSM are about equal when it comes to blowing minor incidents out of proportion.

Quote (IceMage @ Jan 17 2017 02:49pm)

Have you seen the 2 page report presented to Trump/Obama/Biden? How do you know it was just a summary of the 35 page buzzfeed nonsense? The ex-MI6 agent with Russian sources wasn't the originator of the buzzfeed report. CNN's sources said it was personal and financial in nature, I'm not sure getting golden showers in Russia qualifies as financial. The media never reported that the buzzfeed thing was true, or that it was credible, so maybe try getting your news from reputable sources so we can debate the facts.

Go re-read the last page, you clearly didn't understand why Clinton's popular vote lead was relevant to the discussion I was having.

According to some polls Putin has a higher favorability rating among Republicans than Obama does. Apparently partisanship matters more than patriotism.

So now the standard for a news outlet to be credible is that they sometimes tell the truth? While most of the time they peddle conspiracies and partisan hackery?

Can you tell me which part of CNN's reporting on the 2 page "blackmail" material was not factual?

Quote (EndlessSky @ Jan 17 2017 07:20pm)

I wish you were half this skeptical of everything the left was involved with.

Quote (IceMage @ 17 Jan 2017 19:49)

Have you seen the 2 page report presented to Trump/Obama/Biden? How do you know it was just a summary of the 35 page buzzfeed nonsense? The ex-MI6 agent with Russian sources wasn't the originator of the buzzfeed report. CNN's sources said it was personal and financial in nature, I'm not sure getting golden showers in Russia qualifies as financial. The media never reported that the buzzfeed thing was true, or that it was credible, so maybe try getting your news from reputable sources so we can debate the facts.

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Can you tell me which part of CNN's reporting on the 2 page "blackmail" material was not factual?

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Go re-read the last page, you clearly didn't understand why Clinton's popular vote lead was relevant to the discussion I was having.

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So now the standard for a news outlet to be credible is that they sometimes tell the truth? While most of the time they peddle conspiracies and partisan hackery?

Quote (EndlessSky @ 17 Jan 2017 19:07)

Lame duck reported quacking all over Washington.

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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jan 17 2017 10:10pm)

Someone makes a reasonable argument, you reply with a cartoon someone else made

This is actually smarter than your usual attempt

Quote (Voyaging @ 17 Jan 2017 19:10)

I think he's become the worst poster on the entire forum.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Jan 17 2017 10:16pm)

Pretty tough to decide between him and excellence tbh, different degrees of the same willful self-delusion.