Quote (IceMage @ 17 Jan 2017 16:41)
Obama hasn't been petulant at all, just candid about what would of happened if he ran against Trump. If Donald wasn't such a thin-skinned baby he would see that.
You have a hard time understanding that completely made up stories(like Pizzagate) are fake news, and inaccurate polling is just inaccurate polling. The Trump campaign didn't think they were going to win on election day, lol.
Actually that +12 polling isn't bad. Like many expect, the third party vote shrinks on election day. National polls are sort of irrelevant because Hillary did win big on the popular vote(almost 3 million more). That's a little too nuanced for you to understand though.
pizzagate was fake news. reports about trump paying russian hookers to golden shower a hotel bedroom in which obama had (allegedly) stayed some months before is just as wild a story as pizzagate. if mainstreammedia wasnt so biased against trump that they are willing to believe any absurd news that is bad for him, nobody would give this story any credit.
likewise, both campaigns knew about the voting system in place, which is the electoral college. therefore, both campaigns tried to maximize their electoral vote, not the popular vote. hence, no one knows what would have happened if both candidates had fought for the popular vote; for example if trump had campaigned in california and new york and dallas and so on. therefore, the 3 million more popular votes for clinton dont mean jackshit. they are irrelevant.
but maybe those two points are a little too nunced for you to understand.
Quote (IceMage @ 17 Jan 2017 16:47)
Trump will just flip-flop like he has on practically every political issue throughout his life... or he'll deny that he ever said insurance for everybody. We're in post-truth Trump land, where CNN is fake news, Breitbart and Infowars tell the truth, and Putin is better than Obama.
well, when it comes to representing and enforcing their respective countries' interestes abroad, putin is without a doubt better than obama. (I dont know enough about russian domestic policy to compare it to obamas...)
besides that.... sometimes breitbart and inforwars do tell the truth - often times in situations where the truth doesnt fit the liberal narrative. conversely, CNN and the other mainstream media mostly dont tell blatant lies, but often enough hold back important info so that the report gets skewed and biased in the desired direction. yes, CNN is, overall, more serious and trustworthy than breitbart. but not everything CNN tells you is the truth, and not everything breitbart reports on is fake news. I'd even dare to say that breitbart and CNN/the MSM are about equal when it comes to blowing minor incidents out of proportion.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 17 2017 12:34pm