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May 12 2024 11:10am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ May 12 2024 06:09pm)
As an Israeli I must admit that in the beginning of this war I thought that we can actually achieve the war goals (which I agree to all of them) but now, 7 months in , I think we will be better off close a deal with Hamas, release the hostages, get out of Gaza and prepare ourselves for the next round. I think we’ve lost direction. The current leadership must be replaced as well.


Changing your leaders will not make a magical change: Israel is no longer considered as a civilized country, and US are pretty much VERY embarassed.
Honestly the terrorists could nukes Israel tomorrow i would only care about Myself and Europe, these crazies far right Israelis put themselves in this shit and I certainly do not want my country to help them anymore in absolutely any topic.

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Not really. Chemo takes a similar approach in eradicating cancer from the body. Think about that. Hamas is cancer.


Not as much as a sneaky cancer like Idiocracy.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hamas-israels-own-creation/

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Not really. Chemo takes a similar approach in eradicating cancer from the body. Think about that. Hamas is cancer.


Bad analogy. One body. Not 2 million peoples bodies. 98% of which are not combatants.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 12 2024 01:16pm)
Bad analogy. One body. Not 2 million peoples bodies. 98% of which are not combatants.


Has to be mentioned that a certain German politician was famous for using that analogy too.
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 11 2024 11:53am)
Starving 1.5 million to people to death in order to capture or kill 30,000 is not a good strategy

And then claim it wasn't your fault because that 30,000 didn't surrender.

Its lunacy.


I don't understand this argument.

Hamas continues to say they want to enact genocide on Israel. They tried it on October 7th. They say they want to continue to enact similar actions.

Why is Israel the actor responsible for protecting Palestinian life? If the Palestinians elected Hamas, and chose to remain with them after the attempted genocide on Israel, they should accept the consequences.
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May 12 2024 12:07pm
The fact that Israel is strong and Palestine is not is not relevant. These people have savages representing them and they don't get a pass because of bad decisions. They get warnings to avoid the areas where Israel will drop bombs on the evil men they chose to empower. And that's more empathy than they deserve, tbh.

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The fact that Israel is strong and Palestine is not is not relevant. These people have savages representing them and they don't get a pass because of bad decisions. They get warnings to avoid the areas where Israel will drop bombs on the evil men they chose to empower.


These "warnings" statements are weird: This is dozens of thousands chidlren and women we are talking about who " don't get a pass because of bad decisions " Jesus, this is more than evil.
But maybe it's not a big difference when doing a comparison with Iraq war 2 consequences, which involves like 100k children or more.

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These "warnings" statements are weird: This is dozens of thousands chidlren and women we are talking about who " don't get a pass because of bad decisions " Jesus, this is more than evil.
But maybe it's not a big difference when doing a comparison with Iraq war 2 consequences, which involves like 100k children or more.


A respectable enemy would separate themselves from the civilian population. If Hamas intentionally embeds themselves with their wives and children, whose fault is it when those "innocents" die?

Not a hard question. The fault lies with Hamas.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 12 2024 10:16am)
Bad analogy. One body. Not 2 million peoples bodies. 98% of which are not combatants.


It's your opinion that it's a bad analogy. I think it's an excellent one. :)
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I don't understand this argument.

Hamas continues to say they want to enact genocide on Israel. They tried it on October 7th. They say they want to continue to enact similar actions.

Why is Israel the actor responsible for protecting Palestinian life? If the Palestinians elected Hamas, and chose to remain with them after the attempted genocide on Israel, they should accept the consequences.


Lol
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Quote (Meanwhile @ May 12 2024 08:10pm)
Changing your leaders will not make a magical change: Israel is no longer considered as a civilized country, and US are pretty much VERY embarassed.
Honestly the terrorists could nukes Israel tomorrow i would only care about Myself and Europe, these crazies far right Israelis put themselves in this shit and I certainly do not want my country to help them anymore in absolutely any topic.



Not as much as a sneaky cancer like Idiocracy.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hamas-israels-own-creation/


I honestly don’t know what you are talking about. Wherever I travel, most of the people don’t even know where to place Israel on the map. No one cares about Israel or Gaza.
The reason I want those politicians out is because they are all responsible for the current situation and I mean even before Oct 7. I don’t give a damn about what the international community thinks because they’ll all shift positions as the wind blows.

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