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Jan 11 2017 02:51pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 11 Jan 2017 16:41)
No it isn't. And no CNN's report said no such thing about the verifiability of the contents.




yes it is, i posted it here including those details from the article
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72969075&f=119&p=512308867

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/
The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-cites-nazi-germany-rejects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586
According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
While multiple officials say the summary was included in the material prepared for the briefers, the senior official told NBC News that the briefing was oral and no actual documents were left with the Trump team in New York. During the briefing, the president-elect was not briefed on the contents of the summary.

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yes it is, i posted it here including those details from the article
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=72969075&f=119&p=512308867

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/
The allegations were presented in a two-page synopsis that was appended to a report on Russian interference in the 2016 election

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump-cites-nazi-germany-rejects-dossier-alleged-russia-dealings-n705586
According to the senior official, the two-page summary about the unsubstantiated material made available to the briefers was to provide context, should they need it, to draw the distinction for Trump between analyzed intelligence and unvetted "disinformation."
While multiple officials say the summary was included in the material prepared for the briefers, the senior official told NBC News that the briefing was oral and no actual documents were left with the Trump team in New York. During the briefing, the president-elect was not briefed on the contents of the summary.


I'm still failing to see where CNN said anything incorrect (except, possibly, that Trump was briefed at all but that is still uncertain).

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Jan 11 2017 03:07pm
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from a CNN standpoint i'm not sure they care, they just got a massive ratings boost post election that lined their pockets. I'm sure before running it they considered a worst case hoax scenario and this passed the cost/benefit.

i could care less about HRC, i didn't want her to win either. Kushner is to me only somewhat troubling. how could we possibly ensure that Eric and Jr aren't colluding with daddy? are they going to cut contact? I see a pile of Trump contracts for the wall that reek of Halliburton in the future...


Its about optics and the lens you put it in. The obama administration, dnc, media, you name it, was very consciously promulgating the trump-russia narrative. This wasn't objective equal opportunity reporting, or else we'd be hearing about every foreign influence hillary was subject to.
They pushed the narrative, and they had reason to do so, because it gave their supporters a cause to rally around, delegitimize trump and not take responsibility for their cockup in this election.
Now anything regarding trump and russia is going to have to be seen through the lens of pissgate and #fakenews.
Likewise, we can't talk about Trump putting Kushner in a white house role without talking about Hillary having done it first. He's getting a free pass, whether or not is unethical nepotism
this is just the state of affairs for partisan politics. Pollsters off sticking his head in an oven or something
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Jan 11 2017 03:14pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 11 2017 03:05pm)
I'm still failing to see where CNN said anything incorrect (except, possibly, that Trump was briefed at all but that is still uncertain).


So the CIA says
"We have a report here that details verified intelligence about any and all links between russia and trump or lack thereof, and here for contrast is {fake news} written by some moron, see the difference?"

Buzzfeed says:
"Here is {fake news}, judge for yourself if you think its real, we ain't gonna even try to verify it, we'll just post shit with no accountability ecks dee"

CNN says:
"We've seen reports about {fake news} and we've confirmed that the CIA provided it and its credible but we can't verify it, but we can confirm it originated as legitimate opposition research and have spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos!"

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Jan 11 2017 03:15pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 11 2017 04:14pm)
So the CIA says
"We have a report here that details verified intelligence about any and all links between russia and trump or lack thereof, and here for contrast is {fake news} written by some moron, see the difference?"

Buzzfeed says:
"Here is {fake news}, judge for yourself if you think its real, we ain't gonna even try to verify it, we'll just post shit with no accountability ecks dee"

CNN says:
"We've seen reports about {fake news} and we've confirmed that the CIA provided it and its credible but we can't verify it, but we can confirm it originated as legitimate opposition research and have spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos!"


i don't think those are direct quotes ;) :D XD
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Jan 11 2017 03:15pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 11 2017 03:07pm)
Its about optics and the lens you put it in. The obama administration, dnc, media, you name it, was very consciously promulgating the trump-russia narrative. This wasn't objective equal opportunity reporting, or else we'd be hearing about every foreign influence hillary was subject to.
They pushed the narrative, and they had reason to do so, because it gave their supporters a cause to rally around, delegitimize trump and not take responsibility for their cockup in this election.
Now anything regarding trump and russia is going to have to be seen through the lens of pissgate and #fakenews.
Likewise, we can't talk about Trump putting Kushner in a white house role without talking about Hillary having done it first. He's getting a free pass, whether or not is unethical nepotism
this is just the state of affairs for partisan politics. Pollsters off sticking his head in an oven or something


like i said i see kushner as small potatoes, the conflict of interest with Trump's sons and the infrastructure and wall projects upcoming seem as glaring as Cheney-Halliburton.
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Jan 11 2017 03:34pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 11 2017 04:14pm)
So the CIA says
"We have a report here that details verified intelligence about any and all links between russia and trump or lack thereof, and here for contrast is {fake news} written by some moron, see the difference?"

Buzzfeed says:
"Here is {fake news}, judge for yourself if you think its real, we ain't gonna even try to verify it, we'll just post shit with no accountability ecks dee"

CNN says:
"We've seen reports about {fake news} and we've confirmed that the CIA provided it and its credible but we can't verify it, but we can confirm it originated as legitimate opposition research and have spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos!"


lmao
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Jan 11 2017 03:49pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Jan 11 2017 03:15pm)
i don't think those are direct quotes ;) :D XD


In preparing this story, CNN has spoken to multiple high ranking intelligence, administration, congressional and law enforcement officials, as well as foreign officials and others in the private sector with direct knowledge of the memos.
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Jan 11 2017 03:53pm
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Jan 11 2017 03:58pm
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i must of missed something ...haven't read the news today
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