This post was edited by GLYC123 on Feb 5 2020 07:22pm

It's also been the backbone of large deficits, which is sort of the point Thor was making...

Democratic presidents have a better record of fiscal conservatism than Republicans. Trump's presidency is just another example. The refreshing thing about him is that he doesn't even try to pretend he cares about the deficit.

This post was edited by IceMage on Feb 5 2020 07:12pm

It's safe to say conservatism is dead.

I'm not sure it ever existed outside of the minds of the right-wing intelligentsia. Many people, including myself at the time, scoffed at the idea that the Tea Party was motivated based on Obama's race. Yet years later, we're faced with a fiscally irresponsible, race-baiting Republican president, and he holds the support of the same people and the formerly deficit hawkish politicians. Nobody on the Republican side even pretends to care anymore.

This post was edited by IceMage on Feb 5 2020 07:35pm

Yeah the only thing Romney ever feared was the debate moderator

He certainly doesn’t fear any religious figure but leave it up to icepeon to invoke religion when he and Rmoney are siding with amoral satanic athiest bully trolls all so they can be ‘proven “right”’about their political emotions

romney fears not being the president of the united states of america
his grey sideburns will endure through the ages until #1 it happens, or #2 america doesn't have presidents anymore
he ain't dying
and he ain't stopping

romney literally just ran for and won then abused literally one of the lowest offices in the land
for the singular purpose of positioning himself as the fallback to emperor trump

he wasn't bored. he's spinning his hamster wheel.

u literally do realize that mitt romney has a better chance at becoming president of the united states of america this year than amy kloblahchla does right

Maybe I phrased my point badly. My point is that Romney's opposition to Trump isnt based on faith or virtue, it's based on huge disagreements with regard to the issues and style.
His histrionic "I swore an oath to god, so his 'Here I stand, I can do no other'" schtick IMHO is just for show.




I wouldnt call it impressive or even courageous. At this point, Romney's political career has reached the end of the road, he's never gonna hold a higher office than his current one, so he basically had nothing to lose by following his conscience/faith/thirst for revenge.




To be fair, back in 2009-12, most economists and experts genuinely thought that running up the deficit would cause huge problems in the relatively near future, with U.S. bonds plunging to junk status, or with quantitative easing by the FED causing rampant inflation. Since these predictions didnt come true, pretty much everyone, Democratic or Republican, now is in full fiscal yolo mode...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 5 2020 08:29pm