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Jan 29 2026 03:26pm
My guy, we're not 15 year olds dueling in the moor and it's lol worthy for you to say shit like this. Wanting some frozen frame that's the smoking gun of justification here is the equivalent of depicting complex world relationships in stick figures.


When people abandon their Bibles, those stick figures are the best we got.
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Jan 29 2026 04:13pm
My guy, we're not 15 year olds dueling in the moor and it's lol worthy for you to say shit like this. Wanting some frozen frame that's the smoking gun of justification here is the equivalent of depicting complex world relationships in stick figures.


“Complex” isn’t a substitute for “specific.” Where’s the moment of imminence?
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Jan 29 2026 04:16pm
When people abandon their Bibles, those stick figures are the best we got.


Religion aside, the standard is imminent threat. Where is it in the video timestamp?
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Jan 29 2026 04:31pm
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Jan 29 2026 05:22pm
Religion aside, the standard is imminent threat. Where is it in the video timestamp?


The imminent threat is people thinking they don't need to obey authority that carry guns in the street. The imminent threat is a divided nation under a spell of exhausting propaganda and a struggle to survive/thrive

A gun going off during a struggle is likely enough evidence to dismiss charges against that same authority.

People won't argue your demand for a timestamp because there isn't one.
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Jan 29 2026 07:03pm
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https://i.imgur.com/KGJNJyR.mp4


Fox News Poll: 59% of voters say ICE is too aggressive, up 10 points since July
ya so? is that supposed to be surprising? couple of people just been shot.
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Jan 29 2026 07:46pm
The imminent threat is people thinking they don't need to obey authority that carry guns in the street. The imminent threat is a divided nation under a spell of exhausting propaganda and a struggle to survive/thrive

A gun going off during a struggle is likely enough evidence to dismiss charges against that same authority.

People won't argue your demand for a timestamp because there isn't one.


Appreciate the honesty - you just conceded my point: “there isn’t one” (a timestamp showing imminent threat).

“Imminent threat” in deadly-force terms means immediate danger in that moment, not “society is divided” or “people should obey authority.” That’s a separate political argument.

If the video doesn’t show an imminent lethal threat, then lethal force can’t be justified on that standard. If your argument is instead “it was an accidental discharge during a struggle,” that’s a different claim - and it still requires you to identify what the struggle was over and who escalated it.

Yes/no: do you agree the video shows no imminent lethal threat at the moment of the shots?
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Jan 29 2026 07:52pm
“Complex” isn’t a substitute for “specific.” Where’s the moment of imminence?


You’re struggling to understand that in a chaotic situation people don’t process reality at hundreds of frames per second.

Really wooden view of reality
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Jan 29 2026 07:55pm
Appreciate the honesty - you just conceded my point: “there isn’t one” (a timestamp showing imminent threat).

“Imminent threat” in deadly-force terms means immediate danger in that moment, not “society is divided” or “people should obey authority.” That’s a separate political argument.

If the video doesn’t show an imminent lethal threat, then lethal force can’t be justified on that standard. If your argument is instead “it was an accidental discharge during a struggle,” that’s a different claim - and it still requires you to identify what the struggle was over and who escalated it.

Yes/no: do you agree the video shows no imminent lethal threat at the moment of the shots?


If there's no timestamp, does that make this murder?

It's obvious that this dude didn't deserve to die. His death is stupid to infinity. But if/when the ICE agents involved are put to trial and the circumstances surrounding the situation are evaluated in totality, there will be no one found guilty of murder.

Family will probably get some money though, so you'll have that to hinge your argument on.
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Jan 29 2026 08:13pm
I think its honestly pretty simple, train officers to wait out a period after pepper spray with only vocal commands to allow people who have been sprayed to compose themselves and comply before escalating a situation. they dont seem to have an issue with that when they're drive by pepper spraying lines of protesters, but somehow it seems to be a bigger issue in active arrests. in general what ive seen out of ice is messy fast arrests, its just bad practice. slow things down stop getting so jumpy and do proper arrests. or ignore the protesters unless criminal damage is done to officers or vehicles. ice should imo get more comfortable with people filming them everywhere they go, or they'll compromise the mission and waste time and resources on blue haired wierdos forever.

in general the idea someone would be gang piled and cuffed 10 seconds or less after being maced is silly. pepper spray, stand by with a hand on your sidearm in case they draw a weapon, then arrest once the mind rage inducing pain starts to set in and they can actually follow commands. its just bad procedure and hasty action.


I fully support improving law‑enforcement training and raising qualification standards. It’s easy to say how someone should act, but it’s much harder to apply that training when you believe your life is in danger. In the military, firefights make this clear. We were trained to shoot with precision on the range, but once rounds start flying in combat, instinct takes over and a lot of that training slips away. I’m not equating ICE operations with military combat, but any high‑stress, hazardous job can push people outside established protocols.

Bovino's press conference this morning;

>Accepting responsibility for Minneapolis, Sky Marshal Bovino resigns. His successor, Sky Marshal Honan outlines his new strategy; "To fight the bug, we must understand the bug. We can ill afford another Metro Surge"

AMEN

This post was edited by IR0K on Jan 29 2026 08:13pm
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