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May 10 2024 03:10am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 10 May 2024 12:09)
What was not on the table that they agreed. I was not aware.


it was a qatari egyptian proposal made to Hamas that Israel wasn't aware of, it was all over CNN 3 days ago
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Quote (Many_Names @ May 9 2024 06:26pm)
Only its not genocide there is no intention to kill them all just to force them to surrender.
So you can twist as much as you want it wont make it genocide.

It might be a war crime if conducted in certain ways but not genocide.


when you prevent access to food and water during a blockade or siege, the direct intent is to starve a population - that is 100% a fact and not subjective. this is a prohibited act under article II(c) of the genocide convention (deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part) that amounts to genocide. this prohibited act differs from the genocidal act of killing by not resulting in immediate deaths, and potentially not leading to death at all - instead, it creates conditions that undermine the possibility of sustained life.
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when you prevent access to food and water during a blockade or siege, the direct intent is to starve a population - that is 100% a fact and not subjective. this is a prohibited act under article II(c) of the genocide convention (deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part) that amounts to genocide. this prohibited act differs from the genocidal act of killing by not resulting in immediate deaths, and potentially not leading to death at all - instead, it creates conditions that undermine the possibility of sustained life.


Siege is not prohibited if the armed forces embedded themselves in civilian population.
The intention is surrender and to impose the winners terms.

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Siege is not prohibited if the armed forces embedded themselves in civilian population.
The intention is surrender and to impose the winners terms.


i didn't say sieges are prohibited, i'm talking about a specific component here (use of starvation on a civilian population). sieges are not prohibited, but the group laying siege must permit unhindered access for food and other vital provisions, as outlined in ihl rule 55
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Quote (Many_Names @ May 10 2024 11:06am)
they had 4 chances to create a state they chose death.
the fact that some far right extremist got into the last governement doesn't mean for 70 years Israel tried to prevent them from building a state and its defiantly doesn't give them the excuse to enter rape and kill civilians.
and they are paying dearly for it right now.


It's normal to reject the propositions of liars, thieves, and assassins.

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i didn't say sieges are prohibited, i'm talking about a specific component here (use of starvation on a civilian population). sieges are not prohibited, but the group laying siege must permit unhindered access for food and other vital provisions, as outlined in ihl rule 55


Unless the enemy forces embedded themselves within the civilian population
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It's normal to reject the propositions of liars, thieves, and assassins.


I am ignoring you from now on, I have nothing to discuss with Terrorist supporters
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Unless the enemy forces embedded themselves within the civilian population


what international laws or conventions provide that exception clause you are referring to? i've referenced the international humanitarian law (ihl) rule 55 previously above - also the fourth geneva convention contains several provisions that prohibit such acts like the starvation of civilians and ensure the welfare of civilian populations, regardless of whether the enemy is embedded within the civilian population.

what law are you referring to that explicitly allows for the starvation of a civilian population if enemy combatants are embedded within them?
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I am ignoring you from now on, I have nothing to discuss with Terrorist supporters


Terrorist supporters like Far-Right Israelis who fuelled Hamas for years expecting it takes the seat of PLO in a Palestine they slowly destroyed, socially and economically, while stealing land and doing asymetric casualties scores.

The European Union's foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, said on 2024 January that the state of Israel has financed the creation of Hamas to weaken the Palestinian Authority led by the Fatah movement.

No, I am not a terrorist supporter. I am siding with United Nations' experts.
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Quote (SixFour @ 10 May 2024 19:40)
what international laws or conventions provide that exception clause you are referring to? i've referenced the international humanitarian law (ihl) rule 55 previously above - also the fourth geneva convention contains several provisions that prohibit such acts like the starvation of civilians and ensure the welfare of civilian populations, regardless of whether the enemy is embedded within the civilian population.

what law are you referring to that explicitly allows for the starvation of a civilian population if enemy combatants are embedded within them?


The are rules regarding the civilian population I am currently between flights the internet is very slow.
I remember something like letting wounded eldery children and pregnant women go.
The rest stay and starve until surrender.

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