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Mar 18 2021 09:10am
Quote (kenw @ Mar 18 2021 08:08am)
The only L are people who perpetuate conspiracies for years using blanket buzzwords like China, Ukraine, NWO, Deep State, etc in order to bolster and propagandize their rather anemic claim - what a pathetic unfulfilled life you must have .


"L" is for, like 4 years of russia russia russia maddow trump. you mean those chumps?
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Mar 18 2021 09:12am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2021 11:10am)
"L" is for, like 4 years of russia russia russia maddow trump. you mean those chumps?


4 years of worshipping Trump only for him to recommend vaccines that you've been staunchly against - literally 33% of your spam is anti vaxx looool. He made you look like the biggest chump there is.
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Mar 18 2021 09:16am
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4 years of worshipping Trump only for him to recommend vaccines that you've been staunchly against - literally 33% of your spam is anti vaxx looool. He made you look like the biggest chump there is.


the biggest liar plastered on your page is worship. its just your hopes that i worship trump yet i have no problem posting what he said about the "vaccine". you wouldnt even know that if i didnt show you.
now its time for you to worship trump. :)

if you can break away from your pedo cartoons

This post was edited by TiStuff on Mar 18 2021 09:17am
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the biggest liar plastered on your page is worship. its just your hopes that i worship trump yet i have no problem posting what he said about the "vaccine". you wouldnt even know that if i didnt show you.
now its time for you to worship trump. :)

if you can break away from your pedo cartoons


I'm not stupid enough to worship one-term sore losers - that's right up your alley.
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Mar 18 2021 09:25am
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I'm not stupid enough to worship one-term sore losers - that's right up your alley.


i dont invest emotion into the government. once again the tv set you on a wild goose chase and made you a L
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Mar 18 2021 09:31am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2021 10:25am)
i dont invest emotion into the government.


Which is why you make multiple spam threads a week and constantly rage at anybody you perceive to be even slightly left.

Makes sense.
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Mar 18 2021 09:35am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 18 2021 08:31am)
Which is why you make multiple spam threads a week and constantly rage at anybody you perceive to be even slightly left.

Makes sense.


setting the record straight. shine the light on the fraud.
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Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2021 11:25am)
i dont invest emotion into the government. once again the tv set you on a wild goose chase and made you a L


You used the TV buzzword - good job. Btw, I haven't watched cable/satellite television in like 10 years and it goes the same for most non-boomers.






Another election-fraud story touted by top Republicans unravels
Republicans will occasionally claim to have credible proof of fraud. This generally causes a stir, right up until those claims are subjected to scrutiny.



The back-and-forth is tiresome and predictable: Republicans, desperate to suppress voting and rationalize election defeats, will insist there's rampant voter fraud throughout the United States. Democrats will respond by asking for evidence that never materializes.

Once in a while, however, Republicans will claim to have credible proof of fraud. This generally causes a stir, right up until those claims are subjected to scrutiny.


In September 2020, for example, then-Attorney General Bill Barr told a national television audience that the Justice Department had "indicted someone in Texas -- 1,700 ballots collected from people who could vote, he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. OK?" As it turned out, no, it wasn't OK -- the Justice Department soon after was forced to concede that Barr's story wasn't true.


About a month later, Donald Trump repeatedly argued that in Wisconsin, "they" found "a lot of ballots in a river," which had been thrown out because they were votes for him. It wasn't long before we learned he'd made this up.

Earlier this year, Republicans in Arizona insisted that there was election fraud in Maricopa County that helped tipped the state in President Joe Biden's direction. An independent audit debunked the claims, and this week, a judge shredded a state GOP election lawsuit on the matter, calling it "baseless" and "groundless," while accusing Republican officials of "gaslighting."

And then, of course, there's the story out of Pennsylvania that Republicans were briefly quite excited about. The Washington Post reported on the results of a detailed investigation:

"U.S. Postal Service investigators found no evidence to support a Pennsylvania postal worker's claim that his supervisors had tampered with mail-in ballots, according to an inspector general's report — allegations cited by top Republicans to press baseless claims of fraud in the presidential election."

A Pennsylvania mail carrier named Richard Hopkins originally claimed he heard a local postmaster discussing an election-fraud scheme. He even released a sworn affidavit to bolster his claims.


Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), among others, took the allegations quite seriously, and the story helped fuel conspiracy theories about Biden's narrow victory in the Keystone State.

But the story wasn't true: not only did the Postal Service's Office of Inspector General discredit the claims, but Hopkins also recanted. The report from U.S.P.S. investigators specifically noted that the mail carrier eventually said "he had not heard a conversation about ballots at all — rather he saw the Postmaster and Supervisor having a discussion and assumed it was about fraudulent ballot backdating."

If recent history is any guide, these inconvenient details will do little to derail those who believe the Big Lie about Trump's defeat, but for those interested in reality, the fact that the conspiracy theorists have precisely zero victories should send a clear signal about the merits of their crusade

This post was edited by kenw on Mar 18 2021 09:38am
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Mar 18 2021 09:39am
Quote (kenw @ Mar 18 2021 08:37am)
You used the TV buzzword - good job. Btw, I haven't watched cable/satellite television in like 10 years and it goes the same for most non-boomers.






Another election-fraud story touted by top Republicans unravels
Republicans will occasionally claim to have credible proof of fraud. This generally causes a stir, right up until those claims are subjected to scrutiny.



The back-and-forth is tiresome and predictable: Republicans, desperate to suppress voting and rationalize election defeats, will insist there's rampant voter fraud throughout the United States. Democrats will respond by asking for evidence that never materializes.

Once in a while, however, Republicans will claim to have credible proof of fraud. This generally causes a stir, right up until those claims are subjected to scrutiny.


In September 2020, for example, then-Attorney General Bill Barr told a national television audience that the Justice Department had "indicted someone in Texas -- 1,700 ballots collected from people who could vote, he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to. OK?" As it turned out, no, it wasn't OK -- the Justice Department soon after was forced to concede that Barr's story wasn't true.

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Another election-fraud story touted by top Republicans unravels
About a month later, Donald Trump repeatedly argued that in Wisconsin, "they" found "a lot of ballots in a river," which had been thrown out because they were votes for him. It wasn't long before we learned he'd made this up.

Earlier this year, Republicans in Arizona insisted that there was election fraud in Maricopa County that helped tipped the state in President Joe Biden's direction. An independent audit debunked the claims, and this week, a judge shredded a state GOP election lawsuit on the matter, calling it "baseless" and "groundless," while accusing Republican officials of "gaslighting."

And then, of course, there's the story out of Pennsylvania that Republicans were briefly quite excited about. The Washington Post reported on the results of a detailed investigation:

"U.S. Postal Service investigators found no evidence to support a Pennsylvania postal worker's claim that his supervisors had tampered with mail-in ballots, according to an inspector general's report — allegations cited by top Republicans to press baseless claims of fraud in the presidential election."

A Pennsylvania mail carrier named Richard Hopkins originally claimed he heard a local postmaster discussing an election-fraud scheme. He even released a sworn affidavit to bolster his claims.


Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), among others, took the allegations quite seriously, and the story helped fuel conspiracy theories about Biden's narrow victory in the Keystone State.

But the story wasn't true: not only did the Postal Service's Office of Inspector General discredit the claims, but Hopkins also recanted. The report from U.S.P.S. investigators specifically noted that the mail carrier eventually said "he had not heard a conversation about ballots at all — rather he saw the Postmaster and Supervisor having a discussion and assumed it was about fraudulent ballot backdating."

If recent history is any guide, these inconvenient details will do little to derail those who believe the Big Lie about Trump's defeat, but for those interested in reality, the fact that the conspiracy theorists have precisely zero victories should send a clear signal about the merits of their crusade


meh bullchit, i bet if i read all that trash it would sound like so much tv swill.
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Mar 18 2021 09:54am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 18 2021 11:39am)
meh bullchit, i bet if i read all that trash it would sound like so much tv swill.


Lol the last paragraph:


If recent history is any guide, these inconvenient details will do little to derail those who believe the Big Lie about Trump's defeat, but for those interested in reality, the fact that the conspiracy theorists have precisely zero victories should send a clear signal about the merits of their crusade.
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