Quote (Beowulf @ Feb 25 2017 08:55pm)

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 25 2017 09:08pm)

well, its a fact that the growth seen under obama was very unimpressive considering the amount of money spent by the government (for whatever reason) during his tenure.
so if trump takes credit for some sort of growth that isnt a result of his good policies, that doesnt make him any more of a bad or doubtful source than obama was. if you accuse trump of spreading "fake news" for things like that, you would also have to have accused obama for fake news all the time. but none of you did.

and do you really want to tell us that the difference between 51% and 59% constitutes the difference between "mostly true" and "mostly false"? :rofl:
an unemployment rate of over 50% is fucking huge in any case. at this level, 8% more or less makes no difference for the political issue at hand.

Quote (Voyaging @ 26 Feb 2017 04:32)

OK my point has nothing to do with Obama is the thing I'm trying to get across.

Nor does the reliability of Politifact.

Obama did not spread fake news, nor did he condemn legitimate news as fake news. This is not debatable. Trump is in the process of attempting to overturn the First Amendment of the Constitution. He is succeeding. Trump is guilty of treason. His (Putin's) success at trying to destroy America is truly impressive.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 25 2017 10:45pm)

wow. you are the liberal counterpart to the bigbrawrd guy. :wallbash:

Quote (Voyaging @ 26 Feb 2017 04:32)

Trump is in the process of attempting to overturn the First Amendment of the Constitution. He is succeeding. Trump is guilty of treason. His (Putin's) success at trying to destroy America is truly impressive.

Quote (Knaapie @ Feb 26 2017 03:59am)

Step one: making facts irrelevant
Trump is not interested in facts saying anything to fit his agenda ->everything said needed to be checked.. Most seems to be false.

Step two: discrediting media and creating choas
Trump calls his critics "Fake news". and suddenly everything is fake

Step three:
Make the established media he enemy of the public

Step four:
Choose the media that can exclusively cover the white house

Step five:
Make them dependent on publishing exactly what the government wants.

State propaganda is born. We are almost there.

Quote (Warlock316 @ 26 Feb 2017 05:15)

facts are irrelevant when they arent true
the media discredits itself, and creates chaos with its bias unhinged "stories" and than blame trump
the media makes them the enemy themselves
the msm demonizes trump at every step and than get mad when they get told to piss off when they arent invited to the party
wont happen
propaganda has been around since the 50s... and still goes on today... RUSSIA BAD, RUSSIA BAD!

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Quote (Warlock316 @ Feb 25 2017 11:15pm)

facts are irrelevant when they arent true
the media discredits itself, and creates chaos with its bias unhinged "stories" and than blame trump
the media makes them the enemy themselves
the msm demonizes trump at every step and than get mad when they get told to piss off when they arent invited to the party
wont happen
propaganda has been around since the 50s... and still goes on today... RUSSIA BAD, RUSSIA BAD!