in the grand scheme, human beings getting jobs isn't a meme, it's called 'supporting oneself". foreign concept for some here (yourself included). you really do hate those who work for their keep. stick to bullying teenagers on the internet less than half your age, bigot.

reported, btw

im not Pollster i dont practice my tricks on d2jsp

'automation' has been the future since some ancestor of ours made a wheel. if the incoming administration is looking to work with manufacturing and tech companies to figure out the way to bridge the gap from the era of 'people making shit' to the era of 'people automating things to make shit', what's the issue? some people will lose jobs?
derisive attitudes towards these workers isn't unwarranted since they won't help themselves at times, but for the ones that do, perhaps these firms can provide ample opportunity for 'moving into the next era' (ie: tuition assistance for classes)

i take short-term and intermediate-term predictions with a grain a salt as by now we should have been colonizing mars and the moon cuz the earth would be flooded based on what some really smart people said a while ago. also where the fuck are the flying cars? we are almost in the Blade Runner year irl.

yet he kamehameha'd the 'most qualified candidate ever and smartest women of all the times" to the sun 3 times this election not bad for "drumpf the orange idiot child"

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Honestly have no idea what makes some people think he will make America safer. His Twitter account alone could legitimately start a war.

Tweets for twits.

good thing the US did NOT elect the one who threatened military conflict during the primaries

No we elected the shiny object instead lol. This election was a major rejection of substance.

and here is the crux of your argument and the easiest to identify bit of ignorance on the subject. you clearly don't understand the scope, like at all. I'm not talking about replacing 2 people with 1 machine that 1 person runs. I'm talking about replacing hundreds of people with a machine system that has 1 or a small handful of operators. AND that operator has his days numbered as well, full automation is coming down the pipe. we built a 3d printing factory with 300 machines and 3 employees, first second and third shifts. they just call 911 if anything starts on fire and pull completed molds from machines.

that's the biggest issue for academia, preparing for the unknown. right now they think the correct way is to prepare CNC operators, which will only somewhat offset the unemployment as those industries are getting automated as well. and that's the point, in a time MUCH closer than what people realize almost all labor will be replaced. and in an even shorter amount of time enough of it will be replaced that the unemployment will be too crippling to handle without a major change in how the govt taxes labor, ie a "machine tax" on labor. I work for a company who automates, and we're currently automating all of our floor fabrication. we're jumping WAY ahead of schedule on CNC welding, sand blasting, waterjets, lasers, turret punches, lathes, etc. we spend approx 100k$ a year on new fab machines in the era of 1990-2005. We spent 2.3 million last year and this year will spend another 3. this is because these advancements in tech came a decade or so ahead of our scheduled ideas that we made in the early 2000s.

we need to be preparing people for the welfare state that will come while reeducating middle aged people with skillsets like plumbing, electric, TIG sanitary welding, etc. people who are above a certain age are too far gone and must be sacrificed to make way for a successful future. these are just facts, ignore them at your peril. Labor is dying, giving it good bedside manner is what gets you elected its not what saves the country. but again, i don't care, i wont be on the chow line because i am not labor. i simply give these speeches to try and spread the word, not out of self preservation but out of empathy for the displaced labor. but we're currently moving so fast that historical trend lines and even meaningful future projections are shit, its moving too fast for that. Every major city in 30 years will be detroit, i'm just sad i won't be here long enough for my predictions to come to "i told ya so" levels.

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The opinion of delusional Communists is irrelevant within the sphere of real life.



This is what dumb liberals actually think.

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Talking about my personal life because you know you aren't smart enough to defend your stupid meme, part 79

Now with bonus "MY MEME ISN'T TEH MEEM COZ JERBS."

I mean, I get that you're absolutely terrified of using your big boy words to discuss the point with me and you're dumb enough to think that talking about someone who's smarter and better than you makes up for how absolutely worthless your intellect is in any actual adult conversation. I really do. But it'd probably be better for you to just stay silent than to prove that you're my bitch by pointing out how much of my life you've decided to memorize.

neither was i - how did humanity ever endure the innovation of simple machines and assembly lines and calculators. hell dominoes has a robot that brings you pizza now.
it sounds along the lines of 'in the near future robots will be building robots and humans are fucked so fuck 'em today, make 'em ready for welfare nation, and a few can be plumbers'
i am a fan of the 'fuck you i got mine' attitude though (srs)

speaking of someone who lost their recent job to automation too many anger issues to keep the first one, and a modified child's toy took the other one

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that a very accurate summary and what needs to happen.

as to how we deal with things that increased efficiency we created new industries. the cotton gin made the textile industry feasible. the assembly line made automobiles affordable which increased the range that someone could travel for work in. etc. but these were all, at least in part, a good thing for labor. especially unskilled labor. anyone with a pair of scissors can cut out a pattern, only a tailor can make a shirt from scratch. but here's the rub, at some point, the balance between corporate profits and demand for cheap products is going to shift. with no one employed the government will need to provide a wage for consumers state side. but in another 50 years what was the third world will be the second, second to first, in some places. so we will offset some of the lack of demand with exporting to countries that will be where we are now more or less. the corporations will be rich with no labor to pay, the govt will take a small rip on the exports, etc. Then after decades of rampant unemployment and a massive decline of purchasing power people will begin to accept their status as dependents. They will slowly lose the desire to work generation after another until we're all slug people like in WALL-E. And the time inbetween will be literal hell on earth for major cities, the strife of detroit/flynt will become the national story. the govt will continue to attempt without success to slow the progress of automation and will fail to prepare people for sitting at home and collecting a basic income. we'll slowly become what we always mocked over in Europe, not out of humanitarian or philosophical motivations but necessity. the period in which we move to exporting will be especially hard on labor because the corporations won't be lobbying for a basic govt provided income, they'll be making money elsewhere while we flounder.