are there any numbers on how many percent the comey letter cost clinton? iirc, she was already, for several days, massively losing ground in the polls before the fbi news broke. its hard to disentangle those trends...

point is though: the three states that proved decisive were florida, wisconsin and pennsylvania. trump didnt need to win michigan, he didnt need to win either wisconsin or pennsylvania. all he needed to do was hold onto florida and win one out of wisconsin and penns. in florida, his winning margin was 1.2%, in wisconsin and pennsylvania, it was 0.76% and 0.72%, respectively. those were the tipping point states.

one can certainly argue that his win in wisconsin might not have happened without the comey letter. but both florida and pennsylvania were heavily campaigned and are depply polarized states. pretty much everybody in those two states had already made his mind or had a very strong leaning towards one candidate before this story broke. and we dont know for sure whether this story had that much of an impact on each and every swing voter. so until I see numbers that prove the opposite, I dare to disagree. IMHO without the comey letter, the election would not have been a clear victory for clinton but instead would have developed into a true nailbiter, with pennsylvania being the decisive state and being down to a margin of sub-0.15%.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 19 2017 07:24pm

still hilarious how everyone cost her the election, but not the corrupt piece of crap she is
i do agree though, that probably cost her the last few votes

Celebrity pandering, #ImWithHer (or her whole "vote for me cuz vagina" at rallies), deplorables, fainting 5x times in a week citing heat stroke, cringe worthy attempts at being hip with millenials

And that's ignoring her actual political stance


Shes dead get over it

while it's obviously unacceptable for a foreing power to mess with another country's elections like that, there is no doubt in my mind that the democratic party is using this as a convenient excuse to not tackle the REAL issue that cost them the election, which is their corrupt establishment that allowed a ridiculously weak and flawed candidate hillary to become their nominee in the first place. any half decent candidate would have blown that orange buffoon trump out of the water.
i feel like dems are currently missing a major opportunity to clean their house, allowing their corrupt elites, that are just as much corporate puppets as the republicans are, to stay in firm control of the party...

We really need a diploma or euthanasia program. That will get our education system out of the gutter.

He was a terrible human and he was the one who caused the war.
He deserved it.

Thanks pard for teaching me basic united states history

http://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

labels are more important than policy and obvious political reality though - especially if it furthers your agenda...