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Jul 3 2025 04:42am
I'd say the rational thing to do would be to submit, not to march down a futile path of war

Many cultures have been destroyed & lost because they were too proud to submit, which is a tragedy


Just look at Europe. there is not much rational thought going on in the halls of power. common sense is in short supply this century.
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Jul 3 2025 05:10am
Just look at Europe. there is not much rational thought going on in the halls of power. common sense is in short supply this century.


Common sense is a euphemism for applying A→B→C logic to more complex issues that actually require knowledge and research. Without it, most people would be overwhelmed and unable to form an opinion on every topic.
We've reached a point where solving problems by carefully considering all aspects and finding well-thought-out solutions is becoming difficult—because these solutions often contradict the "common sense" answers from people who spent only five seconds thinking about it.
The real work often has to happen away from the spotlight because of this.
Just talk to some random guys, they've probably already solved top 10 world issues by applying common sense.
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Jul 3 2025 05:32am
Common sense is a euphemism for applying A→B→C logic to more complex issues that actually require knowledge and research. Without it, most people would be overwhelmed and unable to form an opinion on every topic.
We've reached a point where solving problems by carefully considering all aspects and finding well-thought-out solutions is becoming difficult—because these solutions often contradict the "common sense" answers from people who spent only five seconds thinking about it.
The real work often has to happen away from the spotlight because of this.
Just talk to some random guys, they've probably already solved top 10 world issues by applying common sense.


Anything can be complicated if you dont want to do the right thing.
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Anything can be complicated if you dont want to do the right thing.


Common sense fails in: Geopolitics, economy, migration, healthcare
Even if you solve some issues quickly, there might be unintended side effects that affect you in two years.

I can see some topics like Safe routes to school or reducing bureaucracy that can be approached like that maybe.
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Common sense fails in: Geopolitics, economy, migration, healthcare
Even if you solve some issues quickly, there might be unintended side effects that affect you in two years.

I can see some topics like Safe routes to school or reducing bureaucracy that can be approached like that maybe.


Look at Russia and China, they had a long history of border disputes, they applied common sense to resolve them, they resolved them. I accept you have your view and I have mine, we dont need to war and peace this point.
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Jul 3 2025 06:28am
Look at Russia and China, they had a long history of border disputes, they applied common sense to resolve them, they resolved them. I accept you have your view and I have mine, we dont need to war and peace this point.


Yeah common sense and an in depth strategy for the next decades might not contradict sometimes, that's true.

Let me give you an example of so-called common sense in the politics where I live:

There are three regions, each with its own hospital. All of them are struggling to find staff, are costly to operate, and provide only mediocre services.
The suggested solution would be to build one large hospital in a central location — offering better services, lower costs, and more efficient use of medical personnel.
But despite the apparent logic, this plan has gone nowhere for the past three years. The fear of longer travel distances and potential job losses in the individual regions has blocked any real progress.

Both sides might claim that their opinion is based on common sense, but only one side takes into account the poor infrastructure, limited budget, and aging population of those areas.

So perhaps we should distinguish between informed and uninformed common sense — because with enough information, what seems like common sense can quickly change.


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hope this will end soon :(
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Stop, Trump!

It's too much winning.

I can't take it anymore.
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Jul 16 2025 07:37am
So from what I understand, Trump is now in the habit of giving ultimatums to countries, and with regards to Iran, he gave them a 60 day deadline before he bombed then. He then gave another ultimatum, which is due to end in august and the expectation that he, along with the western block, will apply the heaviest sanctions they can think of to Iran.

The expectation (based on the logic game played out earlier in this thread) is that Iran will not demilitarize and instead it will move further towards Russia and / or China.
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Jul 16 2025 07:39am
WTF is wrong with Israel?

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1945477643207655549

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Israel continues to carry out more strikes against the Syrian Army and the Government of President al-Sharaa than it ever did against the Syrian Arab Army and the Iranian-backed Assad Regime prior to its fall in December. A reminder that Syria under al-Sharaa has launched zero attacks or even facilitated attacks against Israel, in fact they have been actively attempting to prevent attacks by Iran against Israel.
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