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Apr 19 2024 09:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2024 06:10am)
It appears Iran will allow Israel to fire the last shots in this escalation, and Israel of course understands that Iran will continue to fund insurgents who attack Israel. Iran getting drawn into an actual conflict would be devastating to Iran, and so they ceded the optics win to Israel for this round. Though i'd expect an escalation in funding to hezbollah and others in the medium to long term.


Why can't they just settle this 4v4 in the Blood Moor?
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Apr 19 2024 09:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 19 2024 11:31am)
. the whole world knows they have a vastly superior level of force


Vastly? No, but superior for sure. The problem is that both countries have the means to completely destroy each other on paper and the only way this changes is if Israel destroys Iranian launch sites first.

The Iranian strike proved that Iranian missles have the ability to pierce israels air defenses. So in order for israel to regain its "don't fuck with us status" they need to prove to the muslim world that not only can they destroy these launch sites with impunity but also destroy all s300/400 with its airforce

Israel's response was so weak that I believe it would have been better if it never went through with it. I could see it being a strike to make Iran think that its over, with a more significant strike coming later
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Apr 19 2024 10:18am
Quote (ferdia @ Apr 19 2024 05:34pm)
Except when you look at the exchange, Many_names broke forum rules when he referred to the other side as "animals". That breaks the 1st rule on this website.

If, in highlighting this error in moderation, it leads to Many_names being sanctioned for his racists comments and then me being sanctioned for quoting his racist comments, so be it. The error here is that when Fendor was sanctioned, Many_names should have been sanctioned as well. As Many_names was not sanctioned, hate speech has been allowed to thrive throughout this thread.

And I am more then happy to provide dozens of examples of this hate speech, on request (which was not sanctioned, by the moderators). If I am suspended from the sub section for pointing this problem out, so be it.


Not sure which one is the worst in-between blatant lies bashing or disguised hate speech.
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Apr 19 2024 11:13am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Apr 19 2024 08:48am)
Why can't they just settle this 4v4 in the Blood Moor?


israel isnt a GM dueler, if they were a person they'd TPPK public normal baal runs instead of dueling 1v1 or 4v4
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Quote (gnarjay @ Apr 19 2024 07:13pm)
israel isnt a GM dueler, if they were a person they'd TPPK public normal baal runs instead of dueling 1v1 or 4v4


Or calling for GM 1v1 duel but getting a level 50 barb bo buff just before the fight :rofl:
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Apr 19 2024 12:52pm
This post is a violation of the site rules and appropriate action was taken.

I was asked privately as to what happened with Fender. Below is my understanding. If someone has more information, feel free to post it. without further ado:

1. On the 7th of November, active moderation was temporarily applied to this thread. Dizzybusiness was correctly moderated for making a (very) tasteless joke (#4902)
2. user: Meanwhile, was then sanctioned for querying (correctly) why Dizzybusiness was sanctioned for his tasteless joke when another user, El1te, who had made a highly inappropriate statement (#2467) was not. However, moderation appears to be have been applied retroactively, in that, after Meanwhile made his point, a moderator viewed El1te's historic post, and (correctly) sanctioned it. In then quoting the offensive material (which was not previously sanctioned) this sanctioned Meanwhile. Much in the same way Meanwhile warned me not to quote Fender's sanctioned post. However, my argument remains, that Fender's post was not inappropriate. so far so good.
3. user: Many_names then referred to Palestinians as animals (#5064) and when Fender (admittedly, provocatively) challenged him on his position, Fender was sanctioned (#5065). Fender then supplied supporting information which validated the points for which he was sanctioned (#5067, #5071). Fundamentally, Fender was casting doubt on the character of Many_names, which was associated with the number of children killed by Israel in the conflict and Many_names regard/view of civilian palestinians. This, i presume, was considered a personal attack against Many_names, for which Fender was repeatedly sanctioned. The fact that what Fender had said was true (i.e. that Many_names continues to defend the policies adopted against Gaza and the resulting death toll among the children of gaza) is not irrelevant. again, this is also so far so good.
4. user: Bananii was then sanctioned (#5175) for a similar reason - you cannot collectively target Israeli's (or any nation / religion for that matter). again so far so good.
5. user: Fender was then sanctioned again (#5182) for calling Many_names out for being r..... understand i cant say either r word as this as I understand it is the reason for the post being sanctioned (even if it was a true statement, supported by evidence, littered throughout the thread). At this point it looks like Fender was banned from PARD for this exchange with Many_names. I spoke to him briefly after this and he was quite bitter (He and I never got on, but I could find little fault in his posts in this topic). He stopped posting on d2jsp in January of this year. RIP.

Moving on...

6. user: gnarjay was then sanctioned for telling someone to grow up. (he used the F word in there, which would be construed as a personal attack)(#5283). Then Meanwhile was sanctioned for calling out bullshit (#5404). I guess his colorful use of language (another F word) was the problem. I say bullshit as there is ample evidence to support the claim that Israel continues to steal more land in the West Bank.

This was the end for this spate of moderation.

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The TLDR here is: if posts are reported, they will be viewed by a moderator. While there will be a degree of favoritism, provided users do not directly attack other users, or collectively brand Israeli's for the actions of their government, its fine. I'll make a point now of reporting all such racist posts. I will also state the reason for the report after reporting it. I recommend and commend other users to do the same. PARD does not need to be a s***hole.



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RIP , you were taken from us before your time :cry:



PS. This was clearly a result of you calling my joke tasteless :thumbsup:

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Apr 19 2024 01:14pm
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Apr 19 2024 01:26pm
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Telegram is a safer place. Let this topic rot.

This post was edited by Norlander on Apr 19 2024 01:33pm
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Apr 19 2024 01:27pm
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Lmao, ferdia getting 10% for that post. Absolute pathetic favouritism in this forum.

That's actually brutal. Says everything that needs to be said.
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Quote (SBD @ Apr 19 2024 03:27pm)
Lmao, ferdia getting 10% for that post. Absolute pathetic favouritism in this forum.

That's actually brutal. Says everything that needs to be said.


:lol:
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