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Apr 18 2024 05:15pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Apr 18 2024 03:36pm)
I usually agree with you on a lot but I don't understand how you could believe Iran attacking the US AND Israel would somehow be more proportionate than Iran attacking just Israel.

At its most basic level the argument i am making is that if someone punches you, you do not then have the right to punch them AND their friend.


Actually in this case it would be proportionate for Iran to attack the U.S. and Israel given that the U.S. is also complicit in supporting the palestinian genocide.

Reasons:

1. The U.S. has been funding Israels military for decades. Israels genocide war with arabs/palestine is decades old. The U.S. & Israel are very good friends with psychopathic evil intentions.






https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts#:~:text=Israel%20has%20been%20the%20largest,total%20economic%20and%20military%20assistance.

2. The U.S. govt. works with and supports AIPAC - The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a lobbying group that advocates pro-Israel policies to the legislative and executive branches of the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC#:~:text=The%20American%20Israel%20Public%20Affairs,branches%20of%20the%20United%20States.

3. The U.S. aided in developing Israels Iron Dome:

"Iron Dome is a missile intercept system developed and deployed by Israel. It is used to shoot down rockets and missiles fired toward Israel. The U.S. was directly involved in helping develop Iron Dome, providing over $1.6 billion in funding for its development.

Representatives who voted against the most recent funding have been accused of voting to defund Iron Dome and not caring about Israeli security. This is not the case.

During 2021—even before the Sept. 23 vote—the U.S. had already given Israel $500 million for Iron Dome and other missile defense systems. In 2018, the U.S. and Israel signed a 10-year memorandum of understanding through which the U.S. committed to providing Israel with $3.3 billion in military funding

and $500 million in missile defense funding (including Iron Dome) annually. The recently approved $1 billion only adds to those funds. "

https://afsc.org/news/5-things-know-about-us-funding-israels-iron-dome


boot licker lyin ted and mass murderer netanyahu thank each other for Iron Dome

4. The U.S. govt. are hypocrites that ignore their own laws - Section 1091 of title 18

"Section 1091 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits genocide whether committed in time of peace or time of war. Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group."

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-hrsp/human-rights-violators

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1091





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Apr 18 2024 06:27pm
https://x.com/AntiWuCoalition/status/1781024432036647180

https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1781095110710591877

>28 Google employees stage sit-in protesting Google's 1.2Bn dollar contract with Israel in the CEO's office
>Loads of social media content created and shared
>Stunning and brave
>Cops called
>Refuse to leave so get arrested and fired

Lmao. I love it. This should be the norm. Petulant childish behavior should promptly be nipped.

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Apr 18 2024 07:46pm
Israel-Gaza live updates: Israeli missiles hit a site in Iran

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-hamas-war/congressional-party-leaders-reach-consensus-on-aid-to-israel-and-ukraine-schumer-says-109222982?id=108860743

Apparently they're striking targets in Iraq and Syria aswell, get your popcorn ready!
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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 19 2024 04:46am)
Israel-Gaza live updates: Israeli missiles hit a site in Iran

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-hamas-war/congressional-party-leaders-reach-consensus-on-aid-to-israel-and-ukraine-schumer-says-109222982?id=108860743

Apparently they're striking targets in Iraq and Syria aswell, get your popcorn ready!


Iran claims for no damages.
Seems to me that they won’t retaliate. Looks like we are over with this escalation
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Apr 19 2024 01:25am
Two dogs barking at each other. The small one is too small, the big one is toothless.
Neither Israel nor Iran have the resources/manpower for a full scale war. There is only Netanjahu struggling to stay in power and lots of wealthy Israelis leaving the state, but you won't read that in your local newspaper.
Also, Gaza is an overpopulated area with people who can't sustain themselves. It is never going to end well, even if Israel wouldn't exist at all.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 19 2024 01:28am
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Apr 19 2024 07:24am)
Iran claims for no damages.
Seems to me that they won’t retaliate. Looks like we are over with this escalation


i agree. massive restraint on the part of Israel.
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Quote (babun1024 @ 19 Apr 2024 15:25)
Two dogs barking at each other. The small one is too small, the big one is toothless.
Neither Israel nor Iran have the resources/manpower for a full scale war. There is only Netanjahu struggling to stay in power and lots of wealthy Israelis leaving the state, but you won't read that in your local newspaper.
Also, Gaza is an overpopulated area with people who can't sustain themselves. It is never going to end well, even if Israel wouldn't exist at all.


You are back Bowzon. :P
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 19 2024 10:13am)
You are back Bowzon. :P


Nope, I'm just blasting another bubble of useless talk about conflict spiral, war and blabla. No war there, just Netanjahu struggling to stay in power and some idiot mullahs in Iran.
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Quote (ferdia @ 18 Apr 2024 22:51)
You are discounting the fact that Israel is repeatedly launching missiles at other countries. in this instance. Syria. i.e. Israel attacked both Syria (the united states) and iran (israel).
If Syria is friendly to Iran, then it could be said that the US is friendly to Israel. so using your example, at its most basic level, israel punched syria and iran. ergo, iran can punch both the US and Israel.

This is purely a logic exercise, obviously i condemn all countries that FAFO. the fact that israel repeatedly punches syria is not a rationale to determine that such action is OK. similarly the fact that iran does not repeatedly launch attacks on the US would mean that if iran were to do so now, it would be construed as a major escalation. but if you do something to someone, them doing it back to you, is proportionate, even if you dont feel that way. by you i mean one, not you specifically, if you know what i mean.

obviously iran would not look to attack an israeli diplomatic mission to the US as the status quo suggests that this would be an escalation. but in simplistic terms this is a proportionate response, i.e. tit for tat. launching missiles at the US, or at Israel, is disproportionate. doing unto others what they have done to you, is proportionate.


What missiles does Israel launch to other countries.
I must know
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