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Mar 16 2020 01:20pm
Quote (balrog66 @ Mar 16 2020 07:14pm)
Tbh, Asian countries could get another flareup when they ease restrictions again (this is what our experts predict). What to do then?


That's a future hypothetical, it might not happen. In the present the strategy has to be saving as many lives as possible from this virus.

To mitigate the risk of a second outbreak, couldn't Asian countries just ease restrictions when a vaccine is produced?

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Mar 16 2020 01:29pm


Even Trump is scared now.

The market is not going to respond well to this one.

THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS 2 WEEKS AGO.

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Mar 16 2020 01:45pm
I have questions for US

Are US schools closed ? If not, when ?
Are Rents & Bills delayed - or any measure protecting workers living "pay-to pay" ? If not, when ?
Are People getting "Free Hospital" when tested positive ?

Maybe it should be managed by the states if the central government is impotent ?

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 16 2020 01:45pm)
I have questions for US

Are US schools closed ? If not, when ?
Are Rents & Bills delayed - or any measure protecting workers living "pay-to pay" ? If not, when ?
Are People getting "Free Hospital" when tested positive ?

Maybe it should be managed by the states if the central government is impotent ?


1. Yes but probably not all.
2. Not yet but people are talking about it. Probably wont happen but who knows.
3. Same as 2
4. The Feds are taking this seriously now so it seems. About 2 weeks too late.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 16 2020 02:45pm)
I have questions for US

Are US schools closed ? If not, when ?
Are Rents & Bills delayed - or any measure protecting workers living "pay-to pay" ? If not, when ?
Are People getting "Free Hospital" when tested positive ?

Maybe it should be managed by the states if the central government is impotent ?


Schools are in the process of closing. Afaik most colleges have voluntarily closed and spring break was extended by a week until we come to a final decision.

Late fees on utility bills are also being held but again I think it's at the level of individual utility companies.

People will never get free hospital here. We're murika
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Mar 16 2020 01:56pm
Trump just said if you dont feel sick, dont get the test.

WRONG.
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Mar 16 2020 02:10pm
Quote (Brian_D @ 16 Mar 2020 20:56)
Trump just said if you dont feel sick, dont get the test.

WRONG.


Uh, no?! As long as testing capacities are limited, it does of course make sense to use those limited tests on patients where a doctor decides that the symptoms warrant the test, instead of giving it to everyone who feels like it.

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That's a future hypothetical, it might not happen. In the present the strategy has to be saving as many lives as possible from this virus.

To mitigate the risk of a second outbreak, couldn't Asian countries just ease restrictions when a vaccine is produced?


The world cant be shut down indefinitely. We can do this for 2-3 weeks, perhaps 2 months - but certainly not until summer 2021 or whenever a vaccine can be expected to be available for mass production. Keeping up this level of almost non-existent public life much longer than that would cause cataclysmic economic, but also social and psychological damage.

The harsh reality is the following: if the strategy of flattening the curve and building up immunity in the population with maximum control ultimately fails, the world will throw its vulnerable people to the wolves. Going through a recession as severe as during the financial crisis is one thing. But world leaders will never allow the world economy to completely go down the shitter, including crumbing supply chains, hundreds of millions of unemployed, a breakdown of the global financial system and all the social unrest that would follow.

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Uh, no?! As long as testing capacities are limited, it does of course make sense to use those limited tests on patients where a doctor decides that the symptoms warrant the test, instead of giving it to everyone who feels like it.



The world cant be shut down indefinitely. We can do this for 2-3 weeks, perhaps 2 months - but certainly not until summer 2021 or whenever a vaccine can be expected to be available for mass production. Keeping up this level of almost non-existent public life much longer than that would cause cataclysmic economic, but also social and psychological damage.

The harsh reality is the following: if the strategy of flattening the curve and building up immunity in the population with maximum control ultimately fails, the world will throw its vulnerable people to the wolves. Going through a recession as severe as during the financial crisis is one thing. But world leaders will never allow the world economy to completely go down the shitter, including crumbing supply chains, hundreds of millions of unemployed, a breakdown of the global financial system and all the social unrest that would follow.


They shouldnt have been limited to start with.
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Ok Brian_D & Thor123422, thank you for answer, i think it's not that much too late, at least in comparison with France, on the other hand I am REALLY worried by what you are saying regarding hospital cost & job protection. Even if you start the containment earlier you may end up with perma infection from all the ppl who can't afford to miss days or to pay a doc.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 16 2020 08:10pm)
Uh, no?! As long as testing capacities are limited, it does of course make sense to use those limited tests on patients where a doctor decides that the symptoms warrant the test, instead of giving it to everyone who feels like it.



The world cant be shut down indefinitely. We can do this for 2-3 weeks, perhaps 2 months - but certainly not until summer 2021 or whenever a vaccine can be expected to be available for mass production. Keeping up this level of almost non-existent public life much longer than that would cause cataclysmic economic, but also social and psychological damage.

The harsh reality is the following: if the strategy of flattening the curve and building up immunity in the population with maximum control ultimately fails, the world will throw its vulnerable people to the wolves. Going through a recession as severe as during the financial crisis is one thing. But world leaders will never allow the world economy to completely go down the shitter, including crumbing supply chains, hundreds of millions of unemployed, a breakdown of the global financial system and all the social unrest that would follow.


I think you are confusing strict border control with shutting down your economy.
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