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Dec 27 2016 01:44pm
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Or he did a shitty job and people wanted change.


Obama would have been re-elected again.
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Dec 27 2016 02:02pm
I'm still in awe over Trump winning Wisconsin

Something that hasn't been done since Reagan

Hillary didn't do any campaigning there at all

That's how much the left thought they had the election in the bag


Gd

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Dec 27 2016 02:03pm
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Obama would have been re-elected again.


I'll use your argument:
"What a cop out. Always resorting to conspiracy theories."
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Dec 27 2016 02:10pm
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I'm still in awe over Trump winning Wisconsin

Something that hasn't been done since Reagan

Hillary didn't do any campaigning there at all

That's how much the left thought they had the election in the bag


Gd


scott walker won 3 elections. ron paul bumped longsitting feingold off his perch. unions have been losing hold in WI for about 10 years.

i was mildly surprised he won, but wasn't shocked and i knew it would be close.
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Dec 27 2016 02:25pm
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scott walker won 3 elections. ron paul bumped longsitting feingold off his perch. unions have been losing hold in WI for about 10 years.

i was mildly surprised he won, but wasn't shocked and i knew it would be close.

this runs counter to the talking heads' outlook for Trump in the state, as they had it a pretty clear blowout in favor of (C)linton

they should consult you next time sir.
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Dec 27 2016 02:30pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 27 2016 02:25pm)
this runs counter to the talking heads' outlook for Trump in the state, as they had it a pretty clear blowout in favor of (C)linton
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they should consult you next time sir.


ya ya. the same talking heads that bet against walker 3 times, then bet against ron johnson twice.

they're just reading trendlines, i've got my feet on the ground.

that said i thought it would be a close win for clinton (was wrong but still close enough for a recount bid), i thought johnson would win (was right), and i knew walker would win all his elections (was right)

as the union companies left WI the teacher's unions lost their protection, the prison guard's union still has a nice stronghold but they're losing ground in the face of CJ reform in a lot of aspects and their day is coming as well.

It's rapidly becoming Dane County and surrounding areas vs. the northern half of the state, pot is decriminalized in Dane but not even medical has been proposed with much optimism statewide.
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Dec 27 2016 02:37pm
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ya ya. the same talking heads that bet against walker 3 times, then bet against ron johnson twice.

they're just reading trendlines, i've got my feet on the ground.

that said i thought it would be a close win for clinton (was wrong but still close enough for a recount bid), i thought johnson would win (was right), and i knew walker would win all his elections (was right)

as the union companies left WI the teacher's unions lost their protection, the prison guard's union still has a nice stronghold but they're losing ground in the face of CJ reform in a lot of aspects and their day is coming as well.

It's rapidly becoming Dane County and surrounding areas vs. the northern half of the state, pot is decriminalized in Dane but not even medical has been proposed with much optimism statewide.

this is a far better way of getting the 'pulse' of what a given area is feeling/its sentiment and actual trends rather than being foolish with data
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Dec 27 2016 02:41pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Dec 27 2016 02:02pm)
I'm still in awe over Trump winning Wisconsin

Something that hasn't been done since Reagan

Hillary didn't do any campaigning there at all

That's how much the left thought they had the election in the bag


Gd


Yep, her campaign messed up what should have by every account been an easy win.

Could have had bernie
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Dec 27 2016 02:51pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 27 2016 02:37pm)
this is a far better way of getting the 'pulse' of what a given area is feeling/its sentiment and actual trends rather than being foolish with data


there needs to be a hybridized method. both have their merits. phone surveys are good at judging what certain demographics will do and online surveys are mediocre at judging what other demographics will do. but the biggest issue we have in data collection is that people are turned off to the political process and run for the hills when they know data collectors are coming for them. the "secret" vote is something we have to find a way to account for.
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Dec 27 2016 02:53pm
Quote (excellence @ Dec 27 2016 02:37pm)
this is a far better way of getting the 'pulse' of what a given area is feeling/its sentiment and actual trends rather than being foolish with data


Yep, and that's why the Young Turks predicted a razor-thin margin in the state's months out of the election


Honestly I almost shot myself the day of the election when I checked up on the polling and realized Clinton was pulling in a dead even heat with Trump the last week. I hadnt really paid attention since the Comey announcement and I didn't realize it actually cost her 5% minimum lead to evaporate

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