Historical enemy of iranians is saudi arabia, turks are 2#.

Not long ago, syria & israel were discussing peace terms and holding dialogue for return of golan heights.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 15 2024 01:48pm

dude. please listen.

do you think that the Iranians would have this much QUANTITY and shitload of missiles with simply a - lets say 85% successful rate ?

that's not me being an average Israeli against you, this is pure logic.

the Iranians have their own problems with those launches. 2 days ago.. i mean, that's not Israel's doing heh.

i would prefer living in a green place with no army, no missiles and no wars.
does it makes my ego bigger knowing that Iran has problems with credibility and quality control ? not at all.

maybe you guys think we are going to war because we are in fact idiots. could be the case.

my main point - you can't have those massive quantities with high to very high success rate. that's logic.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 15 2024 01:51pm

Not gonna argue about the failrate, we seen similar 50-90% numbers used in ukraine conflict while power plants are being taken down like flies.

Anyhow, yes i think it is idiotic to be escalating with syria and with iran while rafah has yet to be taken, or any sort of conclusion to the south front tying down the army.

As for peace with syria / iran, at this point it is out of the cards. But it was definetely a possibility in the early 2000s. The talks were constructive even, but political greed and opportunism didn´t allow it (scw)

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 15 2024 01:54pm

you gotta sometimes make the big brother from America happy. politics is a game, and we are part of it even if we don't like it.

yes, we need the Americans. no harm in admitting it.

delaying rafah is by my own opinion ( not a fact ) a part of it.

i think, it is a misscalcunation. The US wants to pivot east, it can´t afford to be tied down in 1 more conflict.

For US interest, they shouldn´t partake in this if it escalates. If you (israelis) manage to get the US to act then you 100% gain from it. This is however a risk, because you are assuming the US will act against its interests (which has happened before)

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 15 2024 01:56pm

im not sure. Saudi Arabia and Israel normalizing relations is a massive gain and a U.S interest.
that's the real deal when all the rockets are done. if Israel makes sure it's going there, the Americans are in all the way.
that's the way i see it.

several U.S buddies of mine from work are always naming Israel as an "unnamed American state".

im not sure if i like it, or if it bothers me to the bone.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 15 2024 02:00pm

SA has already accepted the decline of unipolarity, and takes great part in diplomacy with china and russia. They have also normalized recently with iran. They aren´t a US satelite, and haven´t been for a while. SA and israeli ties have been "normalized" since a long time back, dont wanna get into it but saudi leadership is vastly different from saudi populous (in opinion and action).

The main reason they sort-of defended israel is because they fear a new game of power-politics, and they are staunchly against muslim-broderhood shinanigans, this sort of includes hamas.

There is more to it than 2 teams, the middle east is divided into 4-5 camps currently, with some overlap at times.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 15 2024 02:04pm

Hamas saying they'll release 20 hostages for a 6-week truce and a number of prisoners to be released by Israel.

If they're agreeing to a non-indefinite truce honestly Israel should take it, that's probably all the living hostages Hamas even have access to and 6 weeks isn't that long for a war that's been going 7 months

Can this end already? Enough of the nonsense bloodshed over nothing that will change.