Quote (zorzin @ Apr 15 2024 07:34pm)
I would like a source for this claim, please and thank you.
please.. tons of posts you are copy paste news websites and you can't dig that up ? il help you, google "Iranian failed missiles" and choose your favorite source.
me ? i have my own personal sources.
Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 15 2024 07:37pm)
Good post
1. Iran was building up capacity and trying to resolve the Syrian crisis as main objective. There was no point to escalate. "took it from behind" - no need for such low-tier commentary.
2. Is exactly what i said as well, an attack on iranian oil will not have this approach. Did you even read my post?
3. Has less to do with nuclear capability, and more to do with lessons of iran/iraq war. Direct war is incredibly costly, and should be avoided at all costs. Also you obviously didn´t read my post, i said if israel attacks iranian oil they would 100% hit every desalination plant in israel among other things.
4. 85 missiles is nothing. Lebanon alone has an arsenal of 100.000+ missiles. How long would isreali AA last? Just to put things into perspective, the US produces 550 patriots missiles a year. Would you bet that israel AA will survive 100.000-200.000 missiles in the span of 1-2months, with full coverage of military installations as well as other civilian infrastructure?
5. If full war breaks out, all iranian proxies will be activated.
As for jordan/egypt/saudis, etc they have their own interests, and it has less to do with anti-iran sentiment and more to do with containing the conflict. Jordan for example would go to war to avoid Palestinian succes.
The last point is mostly correct, but you gotta understand iran is 2000+ km away from israel, and it is a massive country with 90million population. The only way you can win a war against them is if the US helps (doubt). Finally, this is not 2003, the US is already too stretched if they have a trip into iran, taiwan and ukraine will be gone.
People are too stuck in 1990-2000´s mindset.
huh ?
1. Iran was giving us clues and hints and talked and talked so we will estimate the retaliation and the places they aimed for. they did everything in their control to make sure it's a "safe" yet " meaningful reaction that will not escalate Israel to a direct hit on them.
2. sorry, i don't even know what you refer to
3. has everything to do with nuclear practical ability. you can't hit stuff with ballistic missiles if you are terrified os losing your control over your country, one with brains will not do such idiotic things.
4.
85+ ballistic missiles out of 200 missiles that launched in general towards Israel is refereed to the quality and credibility of their own manufactured ballistic missile. my comment was referred to the failed launches a night and a half ago that no one bothered to post. how do you start a war when 40-50% of your missles can go off and explode on launch ?
get what im saying ?
Israel is not relying on patriots, those are one of the several defensive layers we posses.
Hezbollah 100k+ rockets ( not Lebanon ), 85-90% of those are "brain dead" rockets of various distances. most of them are not even going to be intercepted.
if you are so familiar with the defensive miracles of Israel, you should already know mr.wizard that Iron Dome and the higher layers are not intercepting anything that considered to be a land on "open field".
5. Iranian proxies aren't worth mentioning excluding Hezbollah. Hamas is done, it's a matter of time before it's completely done. Hezbollah has problems from inside of Lebanon so i would not count on them to fully fire on Israeli civilians, if that's the case - read the last post i stated.
6. as you saw night and a half ago - Jordan was playing alongside Israel. U.S will enable Israel and stick right by the side of us with more defensive tools and actions. we don't need beyond that.
7. you are not familiar with everything my country has, both technologically and militantly ( not talking about nukes ).
8. we don't need to attack Iran's open fields, we have no intention to cover Iran's massive size, it's not even on the board. Iran has far more easy yet crucial targets to take out.
9. why do you think that Hezbollah's missiles ( the bigger\more accurate ones for example ) will even be launched ? i would assume based on my IDF service and my knowledge that around 10-15% of thier entire arsenal will be gone before it gets launched. most definitely the strategic accurate ones.
Iran poses to our neighbors the same trouble that it poses to us. you can't rely on your proxies to win a war for ya, you can sure take away the heat from your own yard but it will not get you your true desire ( wiping Israel off the map of this planet ). and those proxies are in a complicated situation ( yo have no idea how much Hezbollah is hated from inside ... ) on the true day, they will not be as useful as you tend to believe.
Iran has shown to the world 2 days ago that it has drones, missiles, cruise missiles and that their quality control is flawed with a pathetic statistic of successful launches.
Israel has shown an expensive yet 99.5~% effective to the bone defensive layers, Jordan helped, Brits helped, Americans helped.
who the fuck would you think aid Iran in a direct war ? North Korea ? Russia ? il tell ya - on one. Hezbollah will enter with skeptical involvement, and several Yemen drones at best. im not dissing their abilities, im just far more realistic and familiar with ours.
if im living in the 90's , you are riding on some Iran's carpet thinking they are masters of something outside of arming proxies. drone and missiles factories are also an easy target heh.
good night, time will tell. your Israeli buddy.