We are fully aware of how things works.
We know that Iran and its proxies are capable of shooting 3-4K rockets and missiles o a daily basis for a long time. We know that.
What the world doesn’t understand is that our public thinks that it’s about time to deal with all this. As much as we delay it, the worst it gets.
I spoke to my father in law yesterday and that’s exactly what he told me.. better to start the show already.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Apr 15 2024 08:30am

He is a failed politician, but that not relevant. sec let me think, ah there we go, he is a hypocrite.

meanwhile babies starving to death in gaza - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/15/babies-children-gaza-famine

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 15 2024 09:25am

Edit, never mind. Not worth the trouble to dismiss this BS.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Apr 15 2024 09:46am

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/artc-saudi-arabia-publicly-acknowledges-role-in-defending-israel-against-iranian-attack

Rather important but subtle detail
both Jordan and the KSA not only shot down missiles to defend Israel, but have publicly acknowledged it

This is correct. There's a lot of liberals that believe that Israel started this with the embassy strike; I completely disagree however because iran started it the moment they started supplying hezbollah/houthis and the rest of their proxies that's reaching Algeria at this point.

These aren't bottle rockets their sending out either, they're state of the art solid fuel hypersonic missles and israeli reverse engineered atgms. The longer this goes on unchecked, the greater threat Israel actually faces.

Now that Iran has showed what their old shitty ass mrbms can do ( (specifically attacking a f35 airbase and a major hq centre) Israel should respond by attacking the mobile launch sites Iran used to attack Israel from. Israel has to show that in a real war scenario it has the capability to destroy Iran's launch sites undetected; meaning using f35s and dolphin class submarines.

exactly the opposite - your comment is the more fictional one, and il explain. what you failed to evaluate are several critical factors, or maybe you are unaware of those.

so heads up, no disrespect here.

1. the Iranian for years took it from behind by an Israeli hand ( nuclear scientists, military advisors, assets in Syria, assets in Iraq and more ). the last hit in Damascus hurt them the most and a retaliation was expected.

2. the retallion was planned for about two weeks, in that time Israel already collected and received information of the possible sites\bases. the Iranian made sure we ( Israel ) can see everything they move and fuel, and prepare. by no means they wanted
anything remarkley close to a direct war.

3. Iran uses proxies for a reason is something we all know far better than anyone. not risking direct war till they actually have the ability to fire a nuclear warhead, they are dependent ( like Saudi Arabia ) on oil and gas, and have serious critical issues with water.
the Iranians are cunning, yet the last thing they want is a direct loose war taken to their homeland against Israel.

4. around 85~ ballistic missiles in addition to the 100+ that the Arrow system took down has FAILED. some on Iranian ground, some died on the way. that's a seriously pathetic statistic specially when they blabbing about their abilities in that area of war.

5. Hezbollah - on a direct order day from Iran to fully go in with Israel might as well hang himself alongside Lebanon. what you saw in Gaza is 5% of the fire and devastation Lebanon will be buried under if that shit will happen. they are at the moment - biting and staying at the perimeters Israel has quietly set.

now as i stated earlier, Iran is a cunning player that by no means want a direct war with Israel. having said that im not pretending that Israel will have a good time or an easy time going to war with Hezbollah and Iran, exactly the opposite, it will be long, hard and people will die here no matter how much defensive
miracles we have. but, oil fields, dams, and basically their entire economy is going to be buried on a full scale war. the U.S will tag along if you like it or not.

last thing - what @Many_Names told you about the mentality in the middle east is right on spot. you are mistaken if you think you can compare the middle east to the U.S or some other western liberal place. when you are growing up here, and doing your service, raising a family here, you learn some things that outsiders
will have hard time to swallow.

strategically, Iran did something that Israel can exploit. Jordan, Saudis.. and other countries around are ALL withing the line of fire of Iran. trust me and copy paste my comment when i tell you as an Israeli : the regime in Iran will not last. if the worst scenario will come to reality, Israel will not allow another Oct.7 for the ages.

hitting Iran proper will be done is various ways. from the sea, air, cyber warfare, and from within. all of those are practical and usable. what makes you think that an F-35 has not already been above Iranian space several times in the past ? obviously you guys are like cheerleaders at age.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 15 2024 10:32am

are you saying that Gaza is not suffering from lack of food or that David Cameron is not a failed politician ? Happy to debate either point, or a point of your choosing. Israel will respond to Iran's attack. Of that there no one is doubt. Iran's attack on Israel was not proportionate and was a major escalation. Israel does not do proportionate response and we should expect a further major escalation, now on the part of Israel, whatever that may be. If you want to talk about that, and the knock on impacts, lets do that.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 15 2024 10:48am

Gaza is not suffering from lack of food. I mean, lack of food, maybe. But not famine.
I would expect photos of hungry people at the streets, from the masters of PR. Not some two kids at the HOSPITAL alleged suffering from famine while there are at least 100 other reasons that they can look like that.
It’s been a month or so from the last call on hunger in Gaza. Still nothing. Same children at same reports.
All reports going out from Gaza are lies to begins with. I trust no Palestinian reporter and no UN UNRWA 10/7 participator for the reports. Those people stay in line for the photos.
I’ll let time to be the judge.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Apr 15 2024 11:17am

I would like a source for this claim, please and thank you.

Good post



1. Iran was building up capacity and trying to resolve the Syrian crisis as main objective. There was no point to escalate. "took it from behind" - no need for such low-tier commentary.
2. Is exactly what i said as well, an attack on iranian oil will not have this approach. Did you even read my post?
3. Has less to do with nuclear capability, and more to do with lessons of iran/iraq war. Direct war is incredibly costly, and should be avoided at all costs. Also you obviously didn´t read my post, i said if israel attacks iranian oil they would 100% hit every desalination plant in israel among other things.
4. 85 missiles is nothing. Lebanon alone has an arsenal of 100.000+ missiles. How long would isreali AA last? Just to put things into perspective, the US produces 550 patriots missiles a year. Would you bet that israel AA will survive 100.000-200.000 missiles in the span of 1-2months, with full coverage of military installations as well as other civilian infrastructure?
5. If full war breaks out, all iranian proxies will be activated.

As for jordan/egypt/saudis, etc they have their own interests, and it has less to do with anti-iran sentiment and more to do with containing the conflict. Jordan for example would go to war to avoid Palestinian succes.

The last point is mostly correct, but you gotta understand iran is 2000+ km away from israel, and it is a massive country with 90million population. The only way you can win a war against them is if the US helps (doubt). Finally, this is not 2003, the US is already too stretched if they have a trip into iran, taiwan and ukraine will be gone.

People are too stuck in 1990-2000´s mindset.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Apr 15 2024 11:47am