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And yet they still have not won.


Till the last Ukrainian, hurrah
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Till the last Ukrainian, hurrah


And who in NATO is the cheapest expendable material in case the much cheaper Ukrainians run out?
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And who in NATO is the cheapest expendable material in case the much cheaper Ukrainians run out?


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Progressive elite IMO


Elite :rofl: can smell my feet

This post was edited by Norlander on Oct 7 2025 05:50am
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Oct 7 2025 10:13am
Russia's debt to GDP is like 17% or so I read and they have a massive gold reserve and are sitting on massive natural resources like oil / gas / minerals.


The bulk of Russia's vast reserves of various natural resources are untapped, though. Nice for the long-term outlook, but unexplored gas fields or mineral deposits in Siberia would take years to get online and won't pay their soldiers or drones in the here and now.

Having a low debt to GDP ratio is nice, but doesn't go that far if said GDP is low. Going from a 20% debt to GDP rate to 100% would only raise them around $1.8 trillion.
That's basically a card they can only play once, and it doesn't go thaaat far. For comparison: the US going from their current debt level of 125% of GDP to just 135% would raise $3 trillion.

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That being said, I agree that we've heard the same stories about how Russia's NWF is about to run out 12-24 months ago. Dito about them running out of shells. Russia is clearly in a situation which isn't sustainable indefinitely, but for how long exactly they can keep it up is hard to tell. For now, it would be foolish to bank on them running out of steam anytime soon. The bigger reason for optimism from a pro-Ukrainian perspective is that the pace of Russian advances on the battlefield seem to have gone down markedly over the last 2 or so months.

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The bulk of Russia's vast reserves of various natural resources are untapped, though. Nice for the long-term outlook, but unexplored gas fields or mineral deposits in Siberia would take years to get online and won't pay their soldiers or drones in the here and now.

Having a low debt to GDP ratio is nice, but doesn't go that far if said GDP is low. Going from a 20% debt to GDP rate to 100% would only raise them around $1.8 trillion.
That's basically a card they can only play once, and it doesn't go thaaat far. For comparison: the US going from their current debt level of 125% of GDP to just 135% would raise $3 trillion.

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That being said, I agree that we've heard the same stories about how Russia's NWF is about to run out 12-24 months ago. Dito about them running out of shells. Russia is clearly in a situation which isn't sustainable indefinitely, but for how long exactly they can keep it up is hard to tell. For now, it would be foolish to bank on them running out of steam anytime soon. The bigger reason for optimism from a pro-Ukrainian perspective is that the pace of Russian advances on the battlefield seem to have gone down markedly over the last 2 or so months.


If Russia was very desperate and on the verge of collapse, they could always mortgage their resources away to China. China is the 800lb gorilla when it comes to machinery, manufacturing, refining, etc. Russia could basically say to China bring in your machinery, engineers, etc and start these projects and pay us royalties. China would be more than happy to build roads and rails and have these type of deals. I mean they love these type of deals in Africa in SA, they'd be more than willing to ship 1-2 million Chinese to Siberia and set up rails/pipelines to bring back resources
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If Russia was very desperate and on the verge of collapse, they could always mortgage their resources away to China. China is the 800lb gorilla when it comes to machinery, manufacturing, refining, etc. Russia could basically say to China bring in your machinery, engineers, etc and start these projects and pay us royalties. China would be more than happy to build roads and rails and have these type of deals. I mean they love these type of deals in Africa in SA, they'd be more than willing to ship 1-2 million Chinese to Siberia and set up rails/pipelines to bring back resources


That's what has already been happening for the past decades anyway: a creeping takeover of Eastern Siberia by a growing Chinese presence against a stagnant Russian population. But shhhh! :)

But you're of course right: if shit truly hit the fan, Russia could mortgage even more of its future to China.
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Oct 7 2025 12:43pm
Till the last Ukrainian, hurrah


Their resolute against a dictator for democracy.
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Their resolute against a dictator for democracy.


Wrong. They're being used by the West, they know it and you know it.

In case you don't you should watch some videos of forced conscription in Ukraine AKA busification but I'm sure you're aware of that so yeah...

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Wrong. They're being used by the West, they know it and you know it.

In case you don't you should watch some videos of forced conscription in Ukraine AKA busification but I'm sure you're aware of that so yeah...


Whenever Putin loses he blames the West. He's such a cry baby.
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