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May 13 2016 06:56am
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You're still not acknowledging the variable factors that influence metabolism, but yes, you are on the right track.


Such as what? Is there something you know about that the Mayo Clinic article (along with all other authoritative knowledge on weight) failed to mention?

e: I need to sleep. I'll be able to reply later.

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May 13 2016 07:07am
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Such as what? Is there something you know about that the Mayo Clinic article (along with all other authoritative knowledge on weight) failed to mention?


It depends. I'm not sure whether it is seen as part of your metabolism, but I know that the body uses much more energy while battling viral or bacterial infections. Same goes for hormonal imbalances, which affect calorie burning especially in women.

Whether these are seen as part of "metabolism" is not something I can say with certainty, but the point is that they affect the amount of calories you burn daily for anything other than movement.
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May 13 2016 07:11am
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Even this is not correct. There are plenty of overweight people who do not overconsume.

You're right about most of them though. Just, "most" is not enough to generalize.


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This entirely depends on your definition of "overeating".

By posting this image you give the impression you're yet another person who sticks to the "I can't imagine how it could work that way, so it must be impossible" principle.
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May 13 2016 07:25am
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It depends. I'm not sure whether it is seen as part of your metabolism, but I know that the body uses much more energy while battling viral or bacterial infections. Same goes for hormonal imbalances, which affect calorie burning especially in women.

Whether these are seen as part of "metabolism" is not something I can say with certainty, but the point is that they affect the amount of calories you burn daily for anything other than movement.


The fact remains whether you have a slightly higher or lower metabolism if you consume more calories , or to a lesser importance exercise less, you will gain weight. Some people can eat more and have little to no concern towards their diet, lucky them , it doesn't excuse those who can't from the extra work they have to do to be healthy. Sometimes this changes with age , not rocket science that as you age you tend to put on a few extra pounds, still doesn't excuse one from monitoring and adjusting as your body changes.

The fact is Reducing the amount of calories you intake or increasing the amount you exert is simple the only thing holding one back is their will power and determination.

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May 13 2016 07:29am
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This entirely depends on your definition of "overeating".

By posting this image you give the impression you're yet another person who sticks to the "I can't imagine how it could work that way, so it must be impossible" principle.


cal in vs cal out, that's literally all it ever is

i'll grant that that there issn't one set number of maintenance cal requirements for everyone as it varies with lifestyle (sedentary to athletic) and medical issues can play a role as well but in the end you can't gain weight without consuming more energy than you use up

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This entirely depends on your definition of "overeating".

By posting this image you give the impression you're yet another person who sticks to the "I can't imagine how it could work that way, so it must be impossible" principle.


eat a certain amount of calories
see if it makes you gain, lose, or stay at a certain weight
change the number and test the effects

wow so science
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May 13 2016 08:23am
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eat a certain amount of calories
see if it makes you gain, lose, or stay at a certain weight
change the number and test the effects

wow so science


Agreed, if your meta varies then your caloric input should vary if you want to remain at a fixed weight. If you fix calories, expect weight to vary with meta. This is an over simplification of course, you wouldn't want all calories coming from soda for example...
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Agreed, if your meta varies then your caloric input should vary if you want to remain at a fixed weight. If you fix calories, expect weight to vary with meta. This is an over simplification of course, you wouldn't want all calories coming from soda for example...


You're definitely right, not all calories are equal.
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May 13 2016 10:41am
Quote (duffman316 @ May 13 2016 06:29am)
cal in vs cal out, that's literally all it ever is

i'll grant that that there issn't one set number of maintenance cal requirements for everyone as it varies with lifestyle (sedentary to athletic) and medical issues can play a role as well but in the end you can't gain weight without consuming more energy than you use up


Because what is metabolism?
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