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Quote (Landmine @ 21 Dec 2016 18:58)
There's nothing you've stated with any form of evidence. I think you're just an uniformed liberal.(like most of the people in California)



The article you posted actually gives all the evidence, if you could read.

ETA: Reported

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You mean the number of people in California is growing? Holy shit fuck dude I had no idea wtf is happening.

P.S. interesting how New York has both the #1 most % voting Dem and #1 most % voting Rep (while being the opposite)

e/ nvm I was misunderstanding the purpose of the graph. So many ways you can interpret it

It's the % of the candidate's total votes that came from each state, not the % of the total population of that state that voted for the candidate

Anyway, this whole argument IMO is silly, of course states with higher populations should have more voting power, they have more voters, that's the whole point of democracy, for everyone' s vote to be equal, not for some people's vote to be worth vastly more because they live in a certain state or in a low population area, that's fundamentally anti-democratic and it's honestly embarrassing the US hasn't fixed this broken system yet while nearly every other democratic developed country has superior systems.

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Dec 21 2016 09:08pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Dec 21 2016 08:01pm)
The article you posted actually gives all the evidence, if you could read.

ETA: Reported



Reported. Also it's been proven you lack comprehension skills in our first debate. Since this is true I honestly don't believe you could comprehend the article.
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Dec 21 2016 09:14pm
Quote (Landmine @ 21 Dec 2016 19:08)
Reported. Also it's been proven you lack comprehension skills in our first debate. Since this is true I honestly don't believe you could comprehend the article.



I have no idea who you are and can't remember having debated you, but it's good to know you had to delude yourself about my comprehension so that you could use ad hominem to avoid the embarrassment of having proven my point for me.
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Dec 21 2016 09:17pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Dec 21 2016 08:14pm)
I have no idea who you are and can't remember having debated you, but it's good to know you had to delude yourself about my comprehension so that you could use ad hominem to avoid the embarrassment of having proven my point for me.



What La la land do you come from? Oh wait California nvm. Honestly you have proven nothing. I don't see anything from you, but your opinion.
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Dec 21 2016 09:22pm
Quote (Voyaging @ 21 Dec 2016 22:54)
As would the US, hence why it won't happen. Mutually detrimental.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman's_March_to_the_Sea
Quote (Landmine @ 21 Dec 2016 22:58)
There's nothing you've stated with any form of evidence. I think you're just an uniformed liberal.(like most of the people in California)

he just lashes out as a defense mechanism after talking shit for ages and being proven wrong multiple times. happens to him irl, on the old facebook, and on these forums frequently.
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Dec 21 2016 09:30pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Dec 21 2016 08:05pm)
You mean the number of people in California is growing? Holy shit fuck dude I had no idea wtf is happening.

P.S. interesting how New York has both the #1 most % voting Dem and #1 most % voting Rep (while being the opposite)

e/ nvm I was misunderstanding the purpose of the graph. So many ways you can interpret it

It's the % of the candidate's total votes that came from each state, not the % of the total population of that state that voted for the candidate

Anyway, this whole argument IMO is silly, of course states with higher populations should have more voting power, they have more voters, that's the whole point of democracy, for everyone' s vote to be equal, not for some people's vote to be worth vastly more because they live in a certain state or in a low population area, that's fundamentally anti-democratic and it's honestly embarrassing the US hasn't fixed this broken system yet while nearly every other democratic developed country has superior systems.



That's the point of the electoral college. Delegates are based on the population of the state. Its purpose is to make sure every state has a voice in the election. More states choose Trump and democracy worked. If it was the way the left wanted it then only the states with huge populations would matter. That's not a democracy, but an attack on democracy itself.





When I quoted I didn't notice your last edit. The delegates based through the states is to make sure certain areas don't take away from the voices of smaller rural areas.

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Quote (Landmine @ 21 Dec 2016 19:17)
What La la land do you come from? Oh wait California nvm. Honestly you have proven nothing. I don't see anything from you, but your opinion.


Here you go kid, I'm back on my PC so I can show you how the entire point of your article is what I'm saying. I'll remind you before I start:

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 21 Dec 2016 18:54)
Feel free to think so. I'm a Californian and pretty well versed in issues in the state, so I've long known about the possible upcoming crunch and also that JerBear is making sure it won't actually be a problem.


Y'know, by:

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Brown is urging Sacramento lawmakers to refrain from any massive new spending programs, due to the possibility of an economic slowdown or recession.


And since:

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Nevertheless, California's economy still appears strong.


Despite this, JerBear is also gonna:

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To soften the impact of a downturn, Brown has proposed ending the next fiscal year with $8.5 billion in total reserves, or about $4 billion more than the fiscal 2015-16 state budget plan.


We also passed Prop 55, which was a:

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Meanwhile, California is planning on a November vote on a long-term extension of Proposition 30, a temporary tax increase originally passed by voters in 2012. The measure raised income taxes on Californians at the highest end of the income scale and also put into place a temporary one-quarter cent increase on the state's sales tax.


So, long story short, your article from back in May that you were dense enough to read as being proof that the sky is falling was actually an article about the fiscally responsible steps that California is taking well in advance of a possible shortfall in revenue to make sure that everything is going to be fine, under the guidance of Jerry Brown. Or, put another way:

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 21 Dec 2016 18:54)
JerBear is making sure it won't actually be a problem.


Now let's see if you can actually respond with something that isn't just a warm rehash of something I just said.
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Dec 21 2016 10:07pm
Of course a welfare state would approve taxing the 1%.
Simply more proof California should have no say in the election. Either way it's a dying state and eventually no matter how much taxes are increased it will crash.

This post was edited by Landmine on Dec 21 2016 10:22pm
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Dec 21 2016 10:13pm
Even black people want to kick the illegal beaner slime out of Cali.
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