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Oct 28 2020 09:28am
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Two or more unconnected people, organizations, entities or objects who have seen the evidence first-hand.



But again: I did not jump to some pedo accusation without evidence, based on nothing but rumors or conspiracy theories. In fact, in the first few dozen pages of this very thread, I dismissed that possibility by saying there was no evidence of pedo materials or child porn, and nobody making that claim. As I said, the evidence came before the accusation, the narrative shaped by what we know, when we know it.

ex, post #370;



In the week after that, we found out that indeed there actually was child porn on the computer, nude pictures of natalie biden, and pictures of hunter biden nude with natalie biden, as well as extensive series of messages between biden and his family laying out how hallie biden had accused hunter of being sexually inappropriate with her daughter natalie and wouldn't let them see each other or she'd call the cops, and the biden family closed ranks to protect hunter and call hallie a liar. Of course, we have no reason to think the biden family had the same proof of hunter's sexual degeneracy we have now.

So as I said, let the facts guide your narrative, not vice versa


true or false, you saw this story including the child porn accusations weeks before it broke in public media on 4chan or a similar site?
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Oct 28 2020 09:29am
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And we're supposed to ignore the fact that they're all fringe news organizations and/or Trump supporters?


And sitting members of congress and their offices.
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Oct 28 2020 09:40am
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In the week after that, we found out that indeed there actually was child porn on the computer, nude pictures of natalie biden, and pictures of hunter biden nude with natalie biden, as well as extensive series of messages between biden and his family laying out how hallie biden had accused hunter of being sexually inappropriate with her daughter natalie and wouldn't let them see each other or she'd call the cops, and the biden family closed ranks to protect hunter and call hallie a liar. Of course, we have no reason to think the biden family had the same proof of hunter's sexual degeneracy we have now.

So as I said, let the facts guide your narrative, not vice versa


This still doesnt prove that Hunter is a pedo. The more reasonable explanation is that he had a relapse and ran around his house naked and coked out of his mind while his daughter was around. Which is of course inappropriate and damning behavior, so his ex wife (or sister-in-law or whatever) threatened to use it to smear hunter or to leverage this incident in a family court, at which point his family, including his father, circled the wagons around him, etc.

Hanlon's razor: never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity - or, in this case, addiction.

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And sitting members of congress and their offices.


People like Jim Jordan who have spent the past 4 years shredding their miniscule credibility are now supposed to get taken seriously?

The current Republican minority leader admitted 4 years ago they were using a committee to investigate Benghazi for political reasons.

Some of this material might be legitimate... but the purveyors of it are not. Full stop.

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This still doesnt prove that Hunter is a pedo. The more reasonable explanation is that he had a relapse and ran around his house naked and coked out of his mind while his daughter was around. Which is of course inappropriate and damning behavior, so his ex wife (or sister-in-law or whatever) threatened to use it to smear hunter or to leverage this incident in a family court, at which point his family, including his father, circled the wagons around him, etc.

Hanlon's razor: never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity - or, in this case, addiction.


The child's mother accused Hunter of being sexually inappropriate with her daughter and felt it was serious enough to cut off all contact between them and threaten to call the cops if he came around again, or go to the media. Then on top of that, we have pictures of Hunter Biden being clearly sexually inappropriate with that girl, exposing himself and posing with her. And on top of that, his computer had topless photos of her and other child pornography. I'm all for healthy skepticism and trying to imagine non-malicious explanations for evidence, but you don't accidentally save nude pics of your niece on your computer while on a bender.

If this is going to devolve into finessing the details to figure out just how much of a pedophile we're talking- the kind of "it was only the tip" debates, I don't think it matters too much. Whether it was full blown child sex abuse or just child endangerment and sexually inappropriate behavior with children- its all clearly well past the bounds.

What we can take away from it is that Biden's family, and Joe Biden himself, were clearly aware of Hunter's misadventures with children, and their reaction was to protect Hunter and malign the woman trying to protect her daughter. We can't know just how much the Biden family really knew- maybe they had a sincere belief that Hallie was lying- but now we have the evidence from the laptop that they (I hope) didn't have. That alone is enough for a disturbing story.
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Oct 28 2020 10:03am
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The child's mother accused Hunter of being sexually inappropriate with her daughter and felt it was serious enough to cut off all contact between them and threaten to call the cops if he came around again, or go to the media. Then on top of that, we have pictures of Hunter Biden being clearly sexually inappropriate with that girl, exposing himself and posing with her. And on top of that, his computer had topless photos of her and other child pornography. I'm all for healthy skepticism and trying to imagine non-malicious explanations for evidence, but you don't accidentally save nude pics of your niece on your computer while on a bender.

If this is going to devolve into finessing the details to figure out just how much of a pedophile we're talking- the kind of "it was only the tip" debates, I don't think it matters too much. Whether it was full blown child sex abuse or just child endangerment and sexually inappropriate behavior with children- its all clearly well past the bounds.

What we can take away from it is that Biden's family, and Joe Biden himself, were clearly aware of Hunter's misadventures with children, and their reaction was to protect Hunter and malign the woman trying to protect her daughter. We can't know just how much the Biden family really knew- maybe they had a sincere belief that Hallie was lying- but now we have the evidence from the laptop that they (I hope) didn't have. That alone is enough for a disturbing story.


I don't disagree with you much other than the final paragraph. If we assume everything info wise is real, somehow verified, and what not, at no point does any of that point a finger at Joe unless there's something I missed where he says he knows and is covering. Most people don't want to think their kids are monsters.

Know that someone said something to him and not believe it and know for certain the way your first sentence implied are two diff things btw.

Rereading it, I think I mixed up a sentence in my head. The beginning and the end of the paragraph are two totally opposing suggestions.

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I don't disagree with you much other than the final paragraph. If we assume everything info wise is real, somehow verified, and what not, at no point does any of that point a finger at Joe unless there's something I missed where he says he knows and is covering. Most people don't want to think their kids are monsters.


I don't think most people are qualified to be president of the united states. Its a question of judgment, and particularly damning considering the metoo movement was in full swing as those wagons circled.
These texts in particular show Joe Biden was made aware, directly from Jill & Hallie at a minimum



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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 28 2020 11:10am)
I don't think most people are qualified to be president of the united states. Its a question of judgment, and particularly damning considering the metoo movement was in full swing as those wagons circled.
These texts in particular show Joe Biden was made aware, directly from Jill & Hallie at a minimum

https://i.imgur.com/giERh7Z.png


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true or false, you saw this story including the child porn accusations weeks before it broke in public media on 4chan or a similar site?



hmm?
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Oct 28 2020 10:33am
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hmm?


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A week before the election Gooms desparation is rising. His sanity may crack any day
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