50% agree:
I think Eu should leave NATO and create it's own coalition, without US

Better learn to speak Arabic or Russian.

trump has all the arguments on his side on this

we have not spent enough, our army is in a terrible state and we cant provide the material we promised

its so fucking embarrassing

I didn't post this for any other reason, than the fact that it was current. I'm sure it'll get worked out.

remains to be seen, merkel will make some promises most likely, which she will never fulfill (what else)
we are busy spending dozens of millions for illegal migrants, nothing left for the army

you got exact numbers and exact budget comparision ? (military budget vs migrants budget for 1 year?)

official numbers of 2018

38,5 billion for defense
21,4 billion for integration of migrants, development aid and financial support for the german states (does not include handouts)

however a nice chunk of the 173,8 billion welfare budget is also spent for illegals and the financial transfers they get

thats pretty ridiculous, when barely any of your military equipment is combat ready
to be fair, the defense budget gets a minor raise, which is far from enough however

source, official federal ministry website
https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Pressemitteilungen/Finanzpolitik/2017/06/2017-06-28-PM20-bundeshaushalt-2018.html

Nice, look like Merkel gone too far. But this budget is strongly diminishing each years.
In bold: this is the whole welfare budget of your country, are you sure it's for "illegals" ?.................

its the whole federal budget, but at least 1 out of 6 people getting what you in france call RSA are already refugees, just to name one example
and thats what is included there so you can see what i am getting at, a pretty big portion is spent for illegals and we arent even talking about the army of unemployed non refugee foreigners, which makes it even worse

source
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article172660377/Bundesagentur-fuer-Arbeit-Mittlerweile-ist-fast-jeder-sechste-Hartz-IV-Empfaenger-ein-Fluechtling.html

This post was edited by ampoo on Jul 10 2018 04:12pm

there have also been reent reports that meanwhile, over half of all recipients of unemployment benefits in germany are non-citizens. the share of murders that are committed by non-citizens, is also pushing towards 50%, while they make up less than 20% of the resident population.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 10 2018 04:37pm