Sorry, I had trouble following anything after "take back the holy land" because I died of cringe.


Good for you, I don't really have enough respect for you as a person to do so but if you are intent on it you could read through the thread, most of my opinions are spread throughout it.

Perhaps it's because you don't see the egos involved?



I offered to talk with you because I think these issues matter. If you don't want to, that's cool. I don't care about winning some online battle.

Complex issues often are this way.

Lol'd israeli fragility on full display. You're kidnapping women and children and any male over the age of 12 and calling them hamas/rats because you need the mental victory.

6 months and still no rafah, can't beat the most underdeveloped "army" in the world and no amount of kvetching by you will change this fact

I need a Vice President who's willing to be more of an asshole tbh.

We're likely to get what we give.

Strength and resolve? Amen brother.

What strange bedfellows Icemage and I make


Anyway I'd like to point out that when the tankies are marching against Israel like they are in London right now, its pure tribalism, not any form of sincere or coherent ideological conviction. I've railed against this a lot in the past, trannies marching hand in hand with people who would throw them off rooftops if they came to power. The simple fact is Israel is a conservative country aligned against the allies of the far-left, and the lefties give absolutely zero fucks about human suffering or peace on earth or any other form of bleeding heart idealism. The same people who decry Israel for breaking a few of the eggshells they walk on, will turn around and cheer videos of FPV drones blowing up medics with true bloodlust.
This is one of the unfortunate realities of today's political landscape, we've been reduced to base tribalism again. William Barr aptly called it out against Donald Trump yesterday in an interview about Trump's opposition to the FISA renewal- that Trump only cares that he was spied on and his personal umbrage against the intelligence state, rather than a true ideological opposition to infringements on our civil liberties. At least Barr can recognize a viewpoint even if he represents an authoritarian wing that would trample over it- at least he represents one motivated by ideology rather than personal or political gain.

Guess I shouldn't be surprised by the anti-semites with slipping masks turning out to be in bed with actual nazi war criminals, just the part where they try to claim the moral high ground.

Absolutely insane that you view this through the lens of the US culture war lol.