mofg last speeches horribles

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jul 5 2024 05:48pm

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/exhausted-bad-episode-biden-doubles-debate-explanations-abc/story?id=111695168

“Did you ever watch the debate afterwards?" Stephanopoulos asked Biden.

"I don't think I did, no," the president said.

…this was a yes or no question

48:30 for some hot content from Tim Miller.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 6 2024 10:05am

Biden needs to step down and allow a primary process which would elevate Whitmer/Shapiro.

I really think you're overreacting. The election is 4 months away. Biden gave a bad debate performance, a bit raspy. All he had to do to shake off the sleepy joe label last time was give a single performance while fully awake like his state of the union or his dark brandon vengeance speech, and he'll do it again between now and the election. All the voters are going to simply forget this episode. There was already a primary process, and Biden won it handily, twice in a row. Its what the democrat voters chose and they can't be disenfranchised on the whim of a dogpiling media.

Biden still has a good chance of winning this election, maybe even better than 50%. Trump is still fighting through the democrats labeling him as a felon to try to dissuade tuned out grannies, and they'll continue to focus the smear cannon with full force. Four years ago the media circled the wagons to suppress the hunter biden laptop, they'll give him the same kind of leg up this time around too. If Biden does win, are you going to call it a fluke?

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jul 6 2024 10:38am

It’s great news that Biden’s stubbornness doesn’t allow him to step down.
Trump will get a landslide victory.

However, Biden’s boss will eventually give the order. And in that moment, Biden will know that it’s over for him.

The removal of Biden has to be smooth and graceful.
Democrats are not going to do him dirty.

There's no chance for Democrats to bypass VP Kamala Harris for anyone but Michelle Obama without tanking black enthusiasm... in a year when they're already struggling with black voters anyway.
Likewise, Shapiro is clearly a rising star in the party, but would be a horrible candidate in 2024, a year when significant chunks of young and/or progressive voters are up in arms over Gaza and antisemitism is running rampant.




That's really the cherry on the cake on this whole mess: the Dem rank and file were disenfranchised by the DNC and the complicit media hiding Biden's true condition from them until it was too late to run a proper primary, so that party elites will now get to pick his replacement without the base having a say in it. In a cycle in which Dem's predominant message is "protecting democracy", no less.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 6 2024 12:42pm

Agreed. I heard dozens of highly qualified media professionals in the last few months say “He is sharp as a tack” and any portrayal of him now as feeble or any or that sort of nonsense is maga propaganda. Highly qualified TV people, experts, repeatedly assured us of this. He has all the D delegates, why are democrats/media trying to engage in insurrectionist behavior?

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jul 6 2024 12:39pm