You are asking alot of questions here but ok here we go, fair warning now, dont give out if you dont like the answers:

1. There are no two nations. there is Israel and the occupied territory of the westbank, which israel continues to claim more and more land from every day, until the day there is nothing left. I simply said do it immediately, dont wait 2-3 decades. dont let the wound fester for decades. Yes, that means kick everyone out that you want to kick out. go ahead, do it. Thats more humane then what Israel is currently doing. Show the world what Israel believes it to be.
2. If you can secure your borders and are finally happy with who you have inside your borders then yes, over time i think there will be peace, since you will no longer be provoking the countries you border by killing, maiming, jailing, brutalizing or displacing your ethnic minorities (apartheid etc) within your borders (since there will be none left). In this scenario you are not continuously pissing other countries off. You will just have to deal with the fall out.
3. call them w/e you want, just send them to a border and say bye.
4. I think in all countries there are die hard fanatic's and certainly in Israel there is a higher % based on historical events, on both sides. but there are also alot of people that just want to live in peace. Sure the die hard fanatic's want to wipe you off the map, but the fact is Israels government IS wiping the palestinians off the map. You cant condemn the palestinians for wanting to do something that you have literally been doing for the last 6 months or for the last 70 years.

A country divided, with two distinct ideologies and religions. One group is brutally suppressing the other for decades. the weaker side resorts to more and more extreme violence. Oh your right, Northern Ireland and Israel are nothing alike because while the Unionists were doing that in Northern Ireland, they did not steal more and more land from the Nationalists. They also realized that mass imprisonment, or internment, was a dead end. Israel has still not realized that yet. nothing alike, my bad.

I dont want to piss you off, but your governments policies are so utterly daft. Dont go looking for trouble. Turn the other cheek. get international support for your cause. find common ground with regional players.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 12 2024 01:23pm

Keep hearing that imminent Iranian strikes are coming for days now but yet to materialize.



https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1778865909840466316?s=46

their idea of peace is Jews and the Mediterranean sea they just showed us what peace with them will be like.

People still think its about land even tho we offered 67 borders twice.

they are saying it will be today / tomorrow. Iran is forced to respond as if they dont Israel will just strike again with impunity.

I don't see how it benefits Iran to respond with some big public attack, seems like Israel is baiting them to do just that which probably makes it the most risky option.

Keep in mind Israel has done things like assassinating multiple Iranian nuclear scientists within Tehran, if Iran were simply waiting for a red line to be crossed I'm pretty sure that would qualify. I don't think Iran wants a huge war because it would wreck their country, the wider Middle East and could very quickly escalate to regional nuclear exchanges or direct involvement from larger powers (US, Russia, China, who probably also don't want this)

IMO, Iran would be much better off keeping things as they are, supporting groups attacking Israel while not directly doing so themselves, regardless of Israel's actions.

This is bait to draw Iran into striking fully knowing US will respond. Israel benefits greatly if the US is drawn in a war with Iran. Iran only grow stronger every year and soon will have nukes. If I’m the powers in Israel, I need to derail this inevitability and having big bro US do it would be the best course of action.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 12 2024 04:49pm

It's almost like that was the plan all along:

U.S. moves MORE forces into the Middle East to prepare for 'imminent' Iranian strike on Israel: Pentagon sends aircraft carrier that can intercept missiles to the Red Sea in warning to Tehran

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13302397/U-S-moves-forces-Middle-East-prepare-imminent-Iranian-strike-Israel-Pentagon-sends-aircraft-carrier-intercept-missiles-Red-Sea-warning-Tehran.html

Yeah seems that way to me too, I'm sure factions within the US and Iran want this to happen but I don't think the leadership does so hopefully it will be avoided. Would be a complete shitshow.


Do you think the US wants the war or just Israel? Obviously the US would like to destroy Iran at some point but this seems more like they are trying to prevent it to me

I think as a general rule of thumb, uncle sam always wants war. I think that the US/Israel is seriously trying to provoke Iran into a regional war to distract everyone from the shitshow in Gaza.

The US is sending an additional squadron of f15s to the ME and allegedly Israel is arming their f35 adir's with those fancy emp bombs many names was talking about ( no info on the bombs yet)
I think Raytheon and friends want a record year!



This post was edited by zorzin on Apr 12 2024 06:20pm

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-hamas-west-bank-war-f85997a95d5579159ffe83d2c0cb988e

Another flashpoint

A 14 year old jewish shepherd boy went missing from a settlement, his flock returned to the farm without him. The jewish settlers- donning masks- raided the nearby Palestinian village searching for the boy, rioting and burning cars. The IDF showed up and restored order, stopping both settlers and palestinians but also searching for the missing boy, and were attacked by the palestinians and returned fire. One palestinian was shot and killed, and its unclear if it was by the IDF or by the settlers.