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Apr 12 2024 09:20am
Quote (darksoho @ Apr 12 2024 03:17pm)
Israel is a bit different ? a bit ? handling with Jihad extremists is the same as Africa's past issues ? Black people in the U.S ? Jesus.

how many Palestinians do you think Putin or Assad or even Trump would kill after Oct.7 ?

do you agree with the nukes of ww2 ? was it as disproportion response as you stated Israel is using against the Palestinians ?or was it justified in order to save years of war and deaths ?

you need to make friends with Jihad-extremists in order to understand that your Nelson Mandela for the Palestinians will be hanged and beheaded the minute he will open his mouth.
those people wants Israel's death. that's it, nothing in your analysis is relevant to the reality in the middle east.


Unlike alot of people that dont answer questions, I do. in order:

Israel is a bit different, as i outlined above. You can believe its not different, thats up to you, but I stand by my position.
You are asking if Jihad extremists is the same as Africa's past history, which is your question, not my statement.
Yes there are black people in the US
No im not Jesus.

You only have to look at Putins' response to the recent terrorist attack on Russia to answer the question re: Putin.
I dont have a a terrorist activity from Assad to base a response off, but the US killed over 1M people after 9/11. Comparing Israel to the US is not favorable to the US, and the fact that the US is the only country in the world that has dropped nuclear bombs on another country is not a glowing recommendation.

I think you need to learn what the words proportionate and disproportionate mean.

Do you want me to answer your other questions or not ?

Finally, and this user darksoho has clearly outlined the problem with the idea of a peaceful Palestinian resistance to Israel - such a leader would be assassinated by Israel.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 12 2024 09:29am
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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 12 2024 05:20pm)
Unlike alot of people that dont answer questions, I do. in order:

Israel is a bit different, as i outlined above. You can believe its not different, thats up to you, but I stand by my position.
You are asking if Jihad extremists is the same as Africa's past history, which is your question, not my statement.
Yes there are black people in the US
No im not Jesus.

Do you want me to answer your other questions or not ?


you didn't answer anything, and you misunderstood me. il be more clear this time.

1. Israel is not a bit different - it is COMPLETELY and miles different from all of the cases you posted in your comments ( Africa, Black freedom etc.. )
meaning - you compare stuff that are not comparable. you can make that conclusion, but no Israeli on the planet will take your analysis seriously.

2. you didn't answer my question about disproportion response. you claim Israel ( in some of your post ) uses it against the Palestinians. please answer me how many dead Palestinians will be on the board if
Putin, Assad, or Trump will had to handle a fuck-fest of rape and murder like Oct.7

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 12 2024 05:20pm)
Finally, ^whitesounded and ^many_names this user darksoho has clearly outlined the problem with the idea of a peaceful Palestinian resistance to Israel - such a leader would be assassinated by Hamas or any terror group that will lead those animals.


il correct that false claim yo made just a second ago.

with those comments and analysis i can clearly see you have no clue on the reality around here.

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you didn't answer anything, and you misunderstood me. il be more clear this time.

1. Israel is not a bit different - it is COMPLETELY and miles different from all of the cases you posted in your comments ( Africa, Black freedom etc.. )
meaning - you compare stuff that are not comparable. you can make that conclusion, but no Israeli on the planet will take your analysis seriously.

2. you didn't answer my question about disproportion response. you claim Israel ( in some of your post ) uses it against the Palestinians. please answer me how many dead Palestinians will be on the board if
Putin, Assad, or Trump will had to handle a fuck-fest of rape and murder like Oct.7


1A: How is Israel completely and miles different from Northern Ireland ?
2A: Disproportionate response where one side kills 1 person, and the side kills 10. Thats disproportionate. or in this case, one side kills 1300~ and the other side kills 32000. or in the case of the US one side kills 3000 and the other kills 1,000,000.

to answer your direct question (again):

Putin - there was a recent terrorist attack on Russia, we do not see Russia declaring war and killing 1 million ISIS-K
Assad - I dont have a terrorist event to work with
Trump - The US lost approx 3000 in 9/11 and proceeded to kill around 1m people (1,000,000) - a disproportionate response.

also not sure if it matters but Nuclear Weapons are a category all to themselves. Therefore I would say it is understood why the US bombed Japan, but it changed the face of the world forever. I would see it as a historical fact and wont dwell on the right or wrong of it. all sides were busy trying to get the bomb first and it was inevitable that it would be used on a population.

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il correct that false claim yo made just a second ago.

with the those comments and analysis i can clearly see you have no clue on the reality around here.


You just misquoted me - this is an example of debating in bad faith. my actual quote was:

"Finally, and this user darksoho has clearly outlined the problem with the idea of a peaceful Palestinian resistance to Israel - such a leader would be assassinated by Israel."

imagine if people misquoted you in the topic, would this not be construed by you as acting in bad faith ?

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1A: How is Israel completely and miles different from Northern Ireland ?
2A: Disproportionate response where one side kills 1 person, and the side kills 10. Thats disproportionate. or in this case, one side kills 1300~ and the other side kills 32000.

to answer your direct question (again):

Putin - there was a recent terrorist attack on Russia, we do not see Russia declaring war and killing 1 million ISIS-K
Assad - I dont have a terrorist event to work with
Trump - The US lost approx 3000 in 9/11 and proceeded to kill around 1m people (1,000,000)


deflections. Assad kill 500k+ of his own people with the russian aid. chemical airstrikes. iv seen several corpses at the hospital when i was in some IDF training.

disproportion: i get your logic. we have Iron Dome and defensive miracles so we have to apologize.
we also need to kill 1,300 people for Oct.7 since they burned, raped, and murdered this number.

what a fucking non-connected liberal.
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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 12 2024 05:36pm)
You just misquoted me - this is an example of debating in bad faith. my actual quote was:

"Finally, ^whitesounded and ^many_names this user darksoho has clearly outlined the problem with the idea of a peaceful Palestinian resistance to Israel - such a leader would be assassinated by Israel."

imagine if people misquoted you in the topic, would this not be construed by you as acting in bad faith ?


of course i just misquoted you

you puted words in my mouth. i stated the Nelson Mandela on the Palestinian side will be beheaded and murdered ( by his own people ) since it's thier nature to bring Jihad
and you claimed Israel will do it.

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deflections. Assad kill 500k+ of his own people with the russian aid. chemical airstrikes. iv seen several corpses at the hospital when i was in some IDF training.

disproportion: i get your logic. we have Iron Dome and defensive miracles so we have to apologize.
we also need to kill 1,300 people for Oct.7 since they burned, raped, and murdered this number.

what a fucking non-connected liberal.


how is this deflection? point to the terrorist act, which led to assad's actions and I might agree with you (well, probably not on the chemical strikes).
Having Iron Dome and defensive miracles is not a reason to apologize. brutalizing and ethnically cleansing a people, and treating them as less then human leads to radicalization, and the disproportionate response to that act of violence continues to spiral.
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Quote (darksoho @ Apr 12 2024 03:17pm)
... your Nelson Mandela for the Palestinians will be hanged and beheaded the minute he will open his mouth.
those people wants Israel's death. that's it, nothing in your analysis is relevant to the reality in the middle east.


would suggest that you are more clear with your statements sothat there is no area of misunderstanding.

also, my analysis is:

Quote (ferdia @ Apr 12 2024 01:23pm)
i.e. more terrorist activities, disproportionate responses, brutal suppression, murder and ethnic cleansing for decades to come.


if you believe its going to be different, explain yourself.

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Quote (ferdia @ Apr 12 2024 05:41pm)
how is this deflection? point to the terrorist act, which led to assad's actions and I might agree with you (well, probably not on the chemical strikes).
Having Iron Dome and defensive miracles is not a reason to apologize. brutalizing and ethnically cleansing a people, and treating them as less then human leads to radicalization, and the disproportionate response to that act of violence continues to spiral.


what do you mean not the chemical airstikes ? Syria civlians who took a hit near the norther Israeli border landed eventually inside an Israeli hospital. we "collected" some of them to aid. you don'e need to belive or even comment about it,
those chemical strikes were all over and it's not a secret. dig it up.

we are not brutalizing anyone. your conclusion is based on our bad media. that's about it.

i would kill 200k + Palestinians the minute they took Israeli BABIES and CIVILIANS ( against any rule on the planet ).
is it brutalizing ? no, i would warn them. yi got 24H to bring those bodies + alive people or Gaza is flattened.
that's punishment, that's not disproportion at all.

your logic is based on areas of the world who never saw those kinds of acts, or familiar with middle east mentality. the more i read your opinions ( outsiders )
the more and more it make sense you have no clue.

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