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Feb 24 2022 09:30am
Quote (said_aouita @ Feb 24 2022 04:20pm)
It's what makes the PARD thread so great. It's the practical wild wild west, where any conspiracy theory is welcomed.



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Unfortunately, the d2jsp mods show their weakness when random threads in PARD get to over 700 pages.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84156389&f=119
This thread needs to end. The kraken isn't coming.


lol why you're linking me with darkhead? Go try a multi accusation and see if that works for you.

Quote (From_ashes @ Feb 24 2022 04:21pm)
^McGnoyek

Probably Djunior didnt realise that we are from Poland. 50 years under Russia siege is enough to have some experience ^^
And we know well what we said.


Actually, I seem to know more than you because I can tell you that communist Poland was a result of the second world war. Nazi Germany planned to exterminate the Russian untermensch remember? And they came close to victory which is why the Soviets did everything they could to create a buffer between them and the West.

FFS dude, educate yourself before posting nonsense here. And if you want to blame someone, blame the bloody Germans who tore up a non-aggression pact they had with the Soviets in 1941 and invaded with a 4 million strong army.

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Quote (fender @ Feb 24 2022 03:36pm)
remember how a few days ago you suggesed russia was never going to invade, that western media was being hysterical, that there is no reason for putin to wage war against ukraine?

because i remember that. you were wrong. again. seeing you act like that never happened is pretty funny.



because the whole "nAtO iS tHrEatEniNg uS" was a bs narrative to begin with. russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world. putin KNOWS nato would never try to 'invade' it - not just because it's a defensive alliance, but because that would inevitably end in nuclear annihilation.
nato doesn't expand by actively seeking new members, it's not an economic union that benefits from larger markets, it grows when countries decide themselves they want to join and meet certain criteria. you know what would have prevented this war? ukraine being in the nato.

you constantly acting like putin's demands and motivations being rational and reasonable is how you got duped into completely misreading this whole situation in the first place. they aren't. they never were, not in 2014 (there are millions of latinos who speak spanish in the US - that does NOT give mexico a legitimate reason to annex texas for example), not today. stop being such a gullible fool.


i knew you would stalk me like the good doggo you are

i said i dont see it happening, because there is not much to gain, i never said "its never going to happen"

but its cute that you out of all people with your constant fearmongering hits like 1 out of 100 and now you drop the "i told you so"

as if it you had an actual opinion, you talked like the fucking BILD "news"paper
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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 24 2022 10:30am)
lol why you're linking me with darkhead? Go try a multi accusation and see if that works for you.

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lol I was agreeing with you and using his thread as an example. Calm down, Karen....

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https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

gas was €72.56 / MWh yesterday
right now its €139.38 and climbing fast
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Feb 24 2022 09:34am
another excuse to waste tax payers dollars here we come.
i dont see why we should be involved but we will be
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Feb 24 2022 09:38am
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 24 2022 07:21am)
That kind of stance is not going to help anyone in this conflict...

Sadly it seems that this is going to spiral out of control. Unless NATO says eh, you know what, further expansion East really aint worth all out war. Lets back off, we had a good run anyways (seeing how many Eastern EU countries were able to join the alliance since the fall of USSR).

Which really would be the smartest move.


yes letting Putin run free in attacking countries is exactly the stance we should take.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 24 Feb 2022 16:17)
You don't know what you're talking about. There's a reason why during the cold war we put nukes in Turkey and when Russia tried to counter and match we drew the red line on Cuba. Proximity matters, but carry on with a one sided view of this issue.


as weapon technology evolves, proximity matters less. SLBMs all over the oceans, ICBMs in hundreds of (secret) silo locations. i'm not completely dismissing the strategic advantage of proximity or a first strike, what i'm saying is that putin knows as well as the rest of the world that mutual assured destruction would STILL be the outcome, and it's a very effective deterrent (see north korea).

and again, russia ALREADY has multiple NATO members at its border.

you repeatedly ignoring the points that debunk your pro-russian narrative doesn't mean they are invalid. talk about clueless and one-sided, lol.

This post was edited by fender on Feb 24 2022 09:38am
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Feb 24 2022 09:38am
China is loving this. Putin met with Xi a few weeks ago, & while China isn’t publicly condoning this, they definitely do. They have Taiwan in their cross hairs & its probably only a matter of time before they make a move
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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 24 2022 04:34pm)
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

gas was €72.56 / MWh yesterday
right now its €139.38 and climbing fast


It's going to get way worse. EU plans to hit Russia with "massive sanctions" which likely result in Russian responding in kind.

They seem to forget how dependent they are on Russian gas / oil / wheat
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jan 23 2022 05:07pm)
Seriously? Who is dumb enough to believe this tripe these days?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anonymous-officials-claim-theres-evil-russian-plot-again-evidence-secret-again

"anonymous officials", "secret evidence",

gee, where have I heard that before?

Fact is, Russia ain't invading squat and this is just another case of the paranoid genocidal homicidal fascists in DC drumming up yet another unnecessary war while pretending that it is their victims which are the unholy, evil aggressors.

It didn't take a rocket scientist to see in 2014 that the US was behind the coup that led to the civil war in Ukraine and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that now, 8 years later, these same people are using the crisis they themselves created in the first place as a casus belli to move the world closer towards war with Russia.

Will these genocidal morons ever give up, or would they rather see the whole planet go up in nuclear flames just to satisfy their fantasies of world domination?



This didn’t age well
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