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Apr 25 2019 11:30am
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On obstruction, Barr is wrong.

So, the dilemma for House Democrats now is whether to utilize Mueller's evidence of obstruction for impeachment. They know from history that impeachment only succeeds if there is a broad, national, bipartisan consensus behind it, no matter the weight of the evidence or presence of sophisticated legal theories.

They might try to generate that consensus by parading Mueller's witnesses to public hearings, as House Democrats did to Nixon. Yet, when House Republicans did that to Clinton, and then impeached him, they suffered politically.

The president's job is to enforce federal law. If he had ordered its violation to save innocent life or preserve human freedom, he would have a moral defense. But ordering obstruction to save himself from the consequences of his own behavior is unlawful, defenseless and condemnable


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-did-president-trump-obstruct-justice

One fox judge trump wont be happy with this week
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Apr 25 2019 02:25pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--kQAmbV1w


I know, it's a statement. Rick Wilson is the type of guy who would piss himself if he was made to feel physically intimidated.
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18 months for Maria Butina
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Apr 26 2019 02:08pm
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18 months for Maria Butina


Putin should declare war on our clown nation.
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Putin should declare war on our clown nation.


You won't say that after he drops the pee tape a week before the 2020 election.
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You won't say that after he drops the pee tape a week before the 2020 election.


I hope he does. Castrated Trump has gotta go. I'd say he's inept, but Obama did more for social conservatism than Drumpf.
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Apr 26 2019 02:41pm
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/rod-rosenstein-armenian-dinner/index.html


Quote (IceMage @ Apr 26 2019 03:28pm)
You won't say that after he drops the pee tape a week before the 2020 election.

if you believe those tapes exist i really don't even know what to say at this point.
https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm
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Examination of the Department’s and the FBI’s Compliance with Legal Requirements and Policies in Applications Filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Relating to a certain U.S. Person

The OIG, in response to requests from the Attorney General and Members of Congress, is examining the Department’s and the FBI’s compliance with legal requirements, and with applicable DOJ and FBI policies and procedures, in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) relating to a certain U.S. person. As part of this examination, the OIG is also reviewing information that was known to the DOJ and the FBI at the time the applications were filed from or about an alleged FBI confidential source. Additionally, the OIG is reviewing the DOJ’s and FBI’s relationship and communications with the alleged source as they relate to the FISC applications. If circumstances warrant, the OIG will consider including other issues that may arise during the course of the review.


it wasn't in the mueller report although allegations were in the steele dossier.
oddly enough, trump wasn't found a deep-state puppet of putin for over 5 years like the dossier claimed either.
horowitz will confirm suspicions either way.
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Apr 26 2019 03:07pm
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/rod-rosenstein-armenian-dinner/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtpexoVn1LM


if you believe those tapes exist i really don't even know what to say at this point.
https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm


it wasn't in the mueller report although allegations were in the steele dossier.
oddly enough, trump wasn't found a deep-state puppet of putin for over 5 years like the dossier claimed either.
horowitz will confirm suspicions either way.


Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 26 2019 03:41pm)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/rod-rosenstein-armenian-dinner/index.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtpexoVn1LM


if you believe those tapes exist i really don't even know what to say at this point.
https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm


it wasn't in the mueller report although allegations were in the steele dossier.
oddly enough, trump wasn't found a deep-state puppet of putin for over 5 years like the dossier claimed either.
horowitz will confirm suspicions either way.


It was a joke.

The father of Trump's press secretary doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Apr 28 2019 10:20am
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/441040-sally-yates-trump-would-be-indicted-on-obstruction-of-justice-if

What a shitshow Obama's picks have made.
This is the Obama holdover attorney general who quite the Trump administration in a grandstanding moment that jeopardized decades of good faith transitions. She got up and insisted she would not defend the travel ban, calling it unconstitutional- and after a year of legal cases, the supreme court upheld it. And it has thus far survived the legal challenges and resisted attempts to strike it down. Now she gets up and insists that the Mueller report says that Trump would have been indicted but-for-the-OLC-guidance. A point which AG Barr specifically addressed in press conference prior to the reports release;

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Reporter: "Mr. Attorney General, we don't have the report in hand. So could you explain for us the special counsel's articulated reason for not reaching a decision on obstruction of justice and if it had anything to do with the department's long-standing guidance on not indicting a sitting president? And you say you disagree with some of his legal theories. What did you disagree with and why?"

Barr: "I would leave it to his description in the report, the special counsel's own articulation of why he did not want to make a determination as to whether or not there was an obstruction offense. But I will say that when we met with him, Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein and I met with him, along with Ed o'Callaghan, who is the principal associate deputy, on March 5th. We specifically asked him about the OLC opinion and whether or not he was taking a position that he would have found a crime but for the existence of the OLC opinion. And he made it very clear several times that that was not his position. He was not saying that but for the OLC opinion, he would have found a crime. He made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime."


So she's basically calling him a liar, or Mueller a liar, or both. And its a hopeless denial if thats the position she's fallen back upon, because obviously Mueller would just come out and deny what Barr said if it was a lie. Barr told the truth about the Mueller report, any attempt to lie on such a stage would be utterly indefensible and fall apart instantly, and yet he got up and was explicit. For Yates to get up and contradict him, even after reading Mueller's explanations to the contrary and Barr's explicit clarification of that exact point, just demonstrates how much of a bad faith actor Yates is and was.
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Apr 28 2019 12:16pm
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lol
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