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De Gaulle came running to Britain for help after the French army got ezpk'd in the space of a week. We gave him a small sized army and he took it as a major insult, and never forgave us for it :lol:

A bad deal for the UK hurts France too, don't forget. Politicians should be searching for an equitable outcome for all instead of petty revenge for perceived misdeeds. Grow up french tosser.


The Brexit is a threat to the very core idea of the European Union as an "irreversible and ever closer union". Therefore, the EU must do everything in its power to ensure that the Brexit fails, so that the defiant Brits are properly punished for their transgression, and so that the critics in other countries are deterred from actually acting on their frustration with the EU.

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De Gaulle came running to Britain for help after the French army got ezpk'd in the space of a week. We gave him a small sized army and he took it as a major insult, and never forgave us for it :lol:
A bad deal for the UK hurts France too, don't forget. Politicians should be searching for an equitable outcome for all instead of petty revenge for perceived misdeeds. Grow up french tosser.



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England, indeed, is insular, maritime. It is bound by its trade, its markets, its supplies to the most diverse countries, and often the most distant. It carries out an essentially industrial and commercial activity, and very little agricultural.
It has in all its work habits and traditions very marked, very original. In short, the nature and structure that are peculiar to England differ profoundly from that of the mainlanders.


Wich is true, especially when i see the obesity rate. cU :lol:

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The Brexit is a threat to the very core idea of the European Union as an "irreversible and ever closer union". Therefore, the EU must do everything in its power to ensure that the Brexit fails, so that the defiant Brits are properly punished for their transgression, and so that the critics in other countries are deterred from actually acting on their frustration with the EU.


true, but at the same time the EU is a corrupt organisation of lobbyists and corporate puppets and i dont see them ruining their masters business
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true, but at the same time the EU is a corrupt organisation of lobbyists and corporate puppets and i dont see them ruining their masters business


that's what I'm hoping as well. but I wouldnt put it past the EU-ideologues to use brexit as a warning example, even if it means they have to pay a high price too.

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The Brexit is a threat to the very core idea of the European Union as an "irreversible and ever closer union". Therefore, the EU must do everything in its power to ensure that the Brexit fails, so that the defiant Brits are properly punished for their transgression, and so that the critics in other countries are deterred from actually acting on their frustration with the EU.


Best thing the EU can do is let the UK, as they have traditionally been the biggest obstacle towards greater European integration. The real threat is to have them remain, unless they give up on having a special membership status.
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Wich is true, especially when i see the obesity rate. cU :lol:


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EU council chief's riposte to Trump: Respect the allies you have

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-europe-tusk/eu-council-chiefs-riposte-to-trump-respect-the-allies-you-have-idUSKBN1K019P

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Many U.S. presidents have urged European governments to spend more on their militaries. But Trump’s demands have been intensified and blunt to an extent that allies worry it could damage NATO morale and play into the hands of Putin, whom they accuse of trying to destabilize the West.

“Dear President Trump: America does not have, and will not have a better ally than Europe,” said Tusk. “Today, Europeans (collectively) spend on defense many times more than Russia, and as much as China.”

He said that money helped boost U.S. security, as the United States regards Russia and China as threats.

NATO released new estimates for allied defense spending in 2018 on Tuesday, showing that Latvia and Lithuania are set to meet the target of spending 2 percent of economic output on the military. Of the 29 allies, only the United States, Britain, Estonia, Greece and Poland met the goal in 2017. Romania is also on course to hit it in 2018, NATO said.


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European officials say while U.S. defense spending makes up 70 percent of combined allied governments’ military budgets, just 15 percent of U.S. expenditure is spent in Europe on NATO-related defense. Washington pays about 22 percent of the running cost of NATO, including the headquarters and commonly-funded equipment such as AWACS surveillance planes.




I don't think the US shouldn't have a trade deficit with the EU, and I think that European countries should spend more for defense.
I don't think Trump would leave NATO, but I think he does have a point.

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