Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 12 2024 08:49am)

im all for a far more liberal drug policy, but we have to be honest and recognize 2 things:

1. far more people will die of overdoses.
2. we have to have a locked tight border that screens incoming drugs along with that.

accepting those two things, one of which i dont even think is possible (a locked down border, we can stop migrants but drugs will always come in) im open to a very liberal drug policy. i still expect to see many more thousands dead per year as a result.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 07:34am)

Biden and Clinton were independent people responsible for their own actions, they were not bound to continue Reagan's war on drugs, let alone double down on it with their crime bill which incarcerated millions, disproportionately blacks by the way, and caused their kids to grow up without a father.

Anyway, even your argument that "the times" or the social climate and stigma have changed is flawed. Hunter Biden didn't just become a crack fiend a few years ago, he's been one for literally decades, and was supported throughout by his father. So this argument isn't suitable to excuse the glaring hypocrisy between the hard-nosed way Joe Biden treated drug abuse by the plebs and the compassion and protection he offered to his fuckup son.

Quote (blahaj @ Jun 12 2024 11:59am)

If I'm not mistaken, that's a problem that was exacerbated heavily by our own government. It's a problem we as a society/criminal groups didn't make get this bad initially. Punishing drug users isn't the answer, stopping the source is

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 12 2024 02:09pm)

stopping the source of what? overdoses? the border?

most of the overdose issue has to do with fentanyl. which i wouldnt classify as a US govt created issue.

Quote (blahaj @ Jun 12 2024 12:14pm)

Drug addiction as major issue in this country didn't start with fentanyl, that being said, whatever you believe responsible for the non pharma fentanyl there is not enough being done to stop it, period

Quote (blahaj @ Jun 12 2024 07:59pm)

If I'm not mistaken, that's a problem that was exacerbated heavily by our own government. It's a problem we as a society/criminal groups didn't make get this bad initially. Punishing drug users isn't the answer, stopping the source is

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 12 2024 01:38pm)

There are so many americans who experienced (or their relatives) drugs problems that Hunter Biden's case isn't that much a negative for Joe Biden regrding votes, I am sure.

https://drugabusestatistics.org/wp-content/uploads/104/drug-usership-among-americans-aged-12-and-older1.png

Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 12 2024 10:28pm)

Most people dont have relatives who smoked crack with hookers on video. hunter wont move the needle, but the underlying premise is silly.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 12 2024 04:33pm)

I don't think all americans watched the video, yet the real problem is DrUg addiction, and it is largely a problem shared in families.
In clear words: It makes Joe Biden closer to the average american.

Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 13 2024 02:13am)

Your average American with a drug addicted, non-Ukrainian speaking, no oil/gas experience son earning millions of dollars for opaque "services rendered" from one of the most corrupt countries on earth.