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Quote (ferdia @ 11 Apr 2024 13:52)
are you actually saying that Israel was devoid of all life before you got there ??


No, my family never got here we were here.

Are you saying that Jews arent the indigenous people of Israel and Judea?
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it is a fact that arab countries, and western countries, and other countries! ethnically cleansed their countries of minorities (including jewish people) over the centuries/millennia. This is a historical fact, and has been repeated throughout humanity as related to minority groups in countries. This is "humanity". The fact that Israel is doing it now, supports the notion that history repeats itself, (and that we are a violent species) but this is not showing Israel in a positive light. More then 20 years ago Gaza was dubbed the largest open air prison in the world, its population has swelled since then and its basically a concentration camp now, with an argument that it is actually a death camp. do you see? dont say "they did it so why cant we" as that goes to a very dark place very fast.

I am not saying that Jews arent the indigenous people of Israel and Judea. I am saying they are not the only people living there. There are groups of people living in the Westbank that are not Jews and they have lived their for generations. do you want to respond to this point ?



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it is a fact that arab countries, and western countries, and other countries! ethnically cleansed their countries of minorities (including jewish people) over the centuries. This is a historical fact, and has been repeated throughout humanity as related to minority groups in countries. The fact that Israel is doing it now, supports the notion that history repeats itself, but this is not showing Israel in a positive light. More then 20 years ago Gaza was dubbed the largest open air prison in the world, its population has swelled since then and its basically a concentration camp now, with an argument that it is actually a death camp. do you see? dont say "they did it so why cant we" as that goes to a very dark place very fast.

I am saying that there are groups of people living in the westbank that are not jewish and they have lived their for generations. do you want to respond to this point ?


Christian Americans lives in the US for over 200 years are they indigenous?

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it is a fact that arab countries, and western countries, and other countries! ethnically cleansed their countries of minorities (including jewish people) over the centuries/millennia. This is a historical fact, and has been repeated throughout humanity as related to minority groups in countries. This is "humanity". The fact that Israel is doing it now, supports the notion that history repeats itself, (and that we are a violent species) but this is not showing Israel in a positive light. More then 20 years ago Gaza was dubbed the largest open air prison in the world, its population has swelled since then and its basically a concentration camp now, with an argument that it is actually a death camp. do you see? dont say "they did it so why cant we" as that goes to a very dark place very fast.

I am not saying that Jews arent the indigenous people of Israel and Judea. I am saying they are not the only people living there. There are groups of people living in the Westbank that are not Jews and they have lived their for generations. do you want to respond to this point ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJGumuVW2iA


That is okay I dont mind them living where they are I dont care if they indigenous or not they just dont want to stay there they want to kill me and take my land in the name of Allah

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Christian Americans lives in the US for over 200 years are they indigenous?


Yes but so were the American Indians, who btw, where there first, before they were ethnically cleansed from most of the US. i.e. they had their land stolen, just like those that are suffering at the hands of the Israeli governments policies of ethnic cleansing. Comparing Israel to the US is not flattering to the US but have at it.

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That is okay I dont mind them living where they are I dont care if they indigenous or not they just dont want to stay there they want to kill me and take my land in the name of Allah


you may not mind, but the Israeli government has taken a position to remove them. there are far more displacements of these people then of the Israeli (jewish people).

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Yes but so were the American Indians, who btw, where there first, before they were ethnically cleansed from most of the US.



you may not mind, but the Israeli government has taken a position to remove them. there are far more displacements of these people then of the Israeli (jewish people).


Israelis dont care, about Arab land
We have no imperialistic goals
We just want to live in peace and quiet and I repeated here thousand times.
Israeli government offered Palestinians numerous times exactly what you suggest they want and they refuse thus I conclude they want to kill us all.
Therefore security measurements needs to be taken.

We live peacefully with the 2 million Arabs living in Israel we didnt ethnically clens them.
Therefore I conclude we dont want to ethnically clens no one.

You seem to miss this point referring me to youtube and article by Muslims, Arabs and self righteous self centered and suicidal leftists.

Look at the bigger picture israelis didnt push anyone out
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Israelis dont care, about Arab land
We have no imperialistic goals
We just want to live in peace and quiet and I repeated here thousand times.
Israeli government offered Palestinians numerous times exactly what you suggest they want and they refuse thus I conclude they want to kill us all.
Therefore security measurements needs to be taken.

We live peacefully with the 2 million Arabs living in Israel we didnt ethnically clens them.
Therefore I conclude we dont want to ethnically clens no one.

You seem to miss this point referring me to youtube and article by Muslims, Arabs and self righteous self centered and suicidal leftists.

Look at the bigger picture israelis didnt push anyone out


so then why are you making more and more settlements in the west bank!! if you want the morale high ground then you dont build settlements in the occupied territories. discuss.
Israel has been pushing ppl out for generations.

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so then why are you making more and more settlements in the west bank!! if you want the morale high ground then you dont build settlements in the occupied territories. discuss.
Israel has been pushing ppl out for generations.


Until there is an agreement on the disputed territories its ours.
We are not doing the Gaza mistake again.

We arent pushing anyone out

I know we are into a long rough times ahead.
In hebrew we have a saying:
“העם הנצח לא מפחד מדרך ארוכה”
We are not afraid of long roads.

If Palestinians want 1967 border they could have accepted it on 2000 and 2008, they want all of it and treat us as foreigners and this wont happened.

Furthermore you, yourself stated Jews are indigenous to this land so it is ours and we were kind enough to share it

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Until there is an agreement on the disputed territories its ours.
We are not doing the Gaza mistake again.

I know we are into a long rough times ahead.
In hebrew we have a saying:
“העם הנצח לא מפחד מדרך ארוכה”
We are not afraid of long roads.

If Palestinians want 1967 border they could have accepted it on 2000 and 2008, they want all of it and treat us as foreigners and this wont happened.

Furthermore you, yourself stated Jews are indigenous to this land so it is ours and we were kind enough to share it


this is an example of debating in bad faith. Your twisting my words to suit your own narrative.

To refute your statement: your living on a street with other people. you say this is your home and its yours and you were kind enough to share the street with the other families, except they have an equal right to the street (and they own their own houses).

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Quote (ferdia @ 11 Apr 2024 14:39)
this is an example of debating in bad faith. Your twisting my words to suit your own narrative.

To refute your statement: your living on a street with other people. you say this is your home and its yours and you were kind enough to share the street with the other families, except they have an equal right to the street (and they own their own houses).


Debating in bad faith is keep repeating the same statement even if you dont have anything to back it up.
For example:
Genocide, ethnic clensing etc…

Why are Jews called Jews?


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