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Jun 12 2024 12:09am
Quote (Pyrotechx @ 12 Jun 2024 04:05)
Here is a heroic shot of Biden giving his son what Trump sons have dreamed of...
https://i.imgur.com/Nr4Jzky.png


Here is Joe Biden chiming in on how crack fiends should be treated:


"You get caught with that, you get FIVE years in jail, no probation [...] judge doesn't have a choice."


I'm sure Joe Biden will hold his son to this same standard, the standard based on which his crime bill imprisoned millions of men.

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Jun 12 2024 12:22am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 02:09am)
Here is Joe Biden chiming in on how crack fiends should be treated:
https://i.imghippo.com/files/b0tKG1718172461.mp4

"You get caught with that, you get FIVE years in jail, no probation [...] judge doesn't have a choice."


I'm sure Joe Biden will hold his son to this same standard, the standard based on which his crime bill imprisoned millions of men.


It's almost like the stigma has changed in the last 40 years, it's almost like we used to harshly criminalize drug use in general because of a certain someone...hmmm
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Quote (blahaj @ 12 Jun 2024 08:22)
It's almost like the stigma has changed in the last 40 years, it's almost like we used to harshly criminalize drug use in general because of a certain someone...hmmm


Joe Biden in the 90s: "Minimum of five years in jail, no probation, no judicial discretion."
Hunter Biden in the 20s: *will not spend time in jail*
Blahaj: "It's (D)ifferent"
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Jun 12 2024 01:19am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 12:06am)
Joe Biden in the 90s: "Minimum of five years in jail, no probation, no judicial discretion."
Hunter Biden in the 20s: *will not spend time in jail*
Blahaj: "It's (D)ifferent"


biden in 2006



based af :lol: imagine if he said that now

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 03:06am)
Joe Biden in the 90s: "Minimum of five years in jail, no probation, no judicial discretion."
Hunter Biden in the 20s: *will not spend time in jail*
Blahaj: "It's (D)ifferent"


Stick to your presumptions, I find criminalizing drug use to be a laughable stigma and it has no place in a society meant to help it's people. And Joe Biden simply said what a vast majority of politicians said and still say about drugs because of a certain popular Republican president.

Baseless accusation to think I'm defending an American democrat when I myself am not one
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Jun 12 2024 05:34am
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Stick to your presumptions, I find criminalizing drug use to be a laughable stigma and it has no place in a society meant to help it's people. And Joe Biden simply said what a vast majority of politicians said and still say about drugs because of a certain popular Republican president.

Baseless accusation to think I'm defending an American democrat when I myself am not one

Biden and Clinton were independent people responsible for their own actions, they were not bound to continue Reagan's war on drugs, let alone double down on it with their crime bill which incarcerated millions, disproportionately blacks by the way, and caused their kids to grow up without a father.

Anyway, even your argument that "the times" or the social climate and stigma have changed is flawed. Hunter Biden didn't just become a crack fiend a few years ago, he's been one for literally decades, and was supported throughout by his father. So this argument isn't suitable to excuse the glaring hypocrisy between the hard-nosed way Joe Biden treated drug abuse by the plebs and the compassion and protection he offered to his fuckup son.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 01:34pm)
Biden and Clinton were independent people responsible for their own actions, they were not bound to continue Reagan's war on drugs, let alone double down on it with their crime bill which incarcerated millions, disproportionately blacks by the way, and caused their kids to grow up without a father.

Anyway, even your argument that "the times" or the social climate and stigma have changed is flawed. Hunter Biden didn't just become a crack fiend a few years ago, he's been one for literally decades, and was supported throughout by his father. So this argument isn't suitable to excuse the glaring hypocrisy between the hard-nosed way Joe Biden treated drug abuse by the plebs and the compassion and protection he offered to his fuckup son.


Good job exposing their double standards :thumbsup:
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Jun 12 2024 06:49am
Quote (blahaj @ Jun 12 2024 05:14am)
Stick to your presumptions, I find criminalizing drug use to be a laughable stigma and it has no place in a society meant to help it's people. And Joe Biden simply said what a vast majority of politicians said and still say about drugs because of a certain popular Republican president.

Baseless accusation to think I'm defending an American democrat when I myself am not one


im all for a far more liberal drug policy, but we have to be honest and recognize 2 things:

1. far more people will die of overdoses.
2. we have to have a locked tight border that screens incoming drugs along with that.

accepting those two things, one of which i dont even think is possible (a locked down border, we can stop migrants but drugs will always come in) im open to a very liberal drug policy. i still expect to see many more thousands dead per year as a result.
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Jun 12 2024 10:17am
Quote (thesnipa @ 12 Jun 2024 14:49)
im all for a far more liberal drug policy, but we have to be honest and recognize 2 things:

1. far more people will die of overdoses.
2. we have to have a locked tight border that screens incoming drugs along with that.

accepting those two things, one of which i dont even think is possible (a locked down border, we can stop migrants but drugs will always come in) im open to a very liberal drug policy. i still expect to see many more thousands dead per year as a result.


I agree, but don't think that the wider society will be ready to stomach a sober discussion about the tradeoff between more drug deaths versus less lives ruined by incarceration for drug offenses.
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Jun 12 2024 10:29am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 12 2024 10:17am)
I agree, but don't think that the wider society will be ready to stomach a sober discussion about the tradeoff between more drug deaths versus less lives ruined by incarceration for drug offenses.


ahhh but you see they have this magic wand, which is state sponsored widespread rehab facilities. billions per year, perhaps many billions, to force people to enter them in leu of jailtime, then they get back on the street and go right back to drugs until they're caught again.

generally many of these same people think homelessness is a housing problem.
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