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Jun 11 2024 09:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 11 2024 10:40am)
it's funny to read a guy who is on video smoking crack with hookers referred to as a "first time offender". i guess it's true what they say, seducing your brother's widow really is the path to salvation. like the blood of christ it washes away all sins in the name of his father.


It pleases the civil libertarian in me greatly to see them at least adhere to the trappings. We've bucketloads of proof of Hunter Biden's vice crimes before and after this, but if you've never been convicted you're a first time offender in the eyes of the law.
Still, Joe Biden should wipe his ass with this and pardon his retard son, which despite his promise to the contrary he'll still hopefully do at some point after election day and before either inauguration or his inevitable heart attack / lethal dementia / being exposed to sunlight and bursting into a cloud of ash
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It pleases the civil libertarian in me greatly to see them at least adhere to the trappings. We've bucketloads of proof of Hunter Biden's vice crimes before and after this, but if you've never been convicted you're a first time offender in the eyes of the law.
Still, Joe Biden should wipe his ass with this and pardon his retard son, which despite his promise to the contrary he'll still hopefully do at some point after election day and before either inauguration or his inevitable heart attack / lethal dementia / being exposed to sunlight and bursting into a cloud of ash


nothing scares me more than litigation/prosecution precedent (and we already crossed that Rubicon) than pardon precedent. prosecution is bad enough, possible to be beat but bad. but when even that becomes moot with post election pardons it just gets so disgusting so fast.
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Jun 11 2024 12:37pm
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nothing scares me more than litigation/prosecution precedent (and we already crossed that Rubicon) than pardon precedent. prosecution is bad enough, possible to be beat but bad. but when even that becomes moot with post election pardons it just gets so disgusting so fast.


If Trump wins, he's totally gonna pardon himself on day 1 in office. Precedent for an outgoing president shamelessly pardoning hsi cronies already exist since Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 11 2024 12:37pm)
If Trump wins, he's totally gonna pardon himself on day 1 in office. Precedent for an outgoing president shamelessly pardoning hsi cronies already exist since Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy


sure, but not quite what i mean. im talking about snowballing precedent. clinton did issue that pardon and it was bullshit and it didnt seem to catch on much. other than the fact that presidents and governors regularly issue a lot of pardons on their way out, before and after clinton.

but what im talking about is a pendulum of doom. biden's WH prosecutes trump, trump wins, pardons himself, turns around and prosecutes biden's WH. Dems impeach, in 4 years a dem wins and pardons, prosecutes, etc. back and forth and back and forth. in 2016 trump had the foresight not to push charges on HRC, hopefully if he wins in 2024 he's equally smart about how dire of a place that puts the country.

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nothing scares me more than litigation/prosecution precedent (and we already crossed that Rubicon) than pardon precedent. prosecution is bad enough, possible to be beat but bad. but when even that becomes moot with post election pardons it just gets so disgusting so fast.


History has shown that the societies where ruling elites are above the law can be stable and prosperous while societies where the ruling elites weaponize the law against one each other devolve into tyranny, purges, civil wars, famine, pestilence and rampant jaywalking. We've had how many decades of politicians getting away with corruption, with kickbacks and graft and even selling out our country to foreign interests. I mean, if any place was going to collapse due to unaccountability the Willie Brown era of San Francisco would have imploded so hard it becomes a singularity and folds all california in upon itself.

I don't see why I should be worried about the precedent set by pardons whether or not there is true underlying guilt. People voted for the guy to have a plenary pardon power. Pardons have the power to lift politics out of the gutter and put an end to ugly times like Ford did. Doom doesn't come as a pendulum, it comes as a spiral as reciprocal escalation keeps growing unchecked until the rubber band snaps, and that's what happens when political parties escalating from impeaching to prosecuting to imprisoning to... what comes next? Assassinations? Executions of dissidents? You can't keep escalating indefinitely, once you spiral far enough there's only one place left to go.
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Are you mad cause he wasn't raping preteens like Trump would?

Edit - Like the literal legally DEFINED rapist Donald Trump aka Republican CANDIDATE.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

Here is a heroic shot of Biden giving his son what Trump sons have dreamed of...


This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Jun 11 2024 08:10pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPU_5a9R1s
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Was this before or after the Rapist Donald Trump defamed E. Jean Carrol? Or perhaps when he paid a pornstar to fuck him?

Or when he paid a playboy bunny to have sex with him?

Maybe it was before he told a 10 year old he would be dating her in 8 years?

OR MAYBE WHEN HE TOLD A LITERAL TALK SHOW HE WANTED TO FUCK HIS DAUGHTER

http://socket.newrepublic.com/post/173968/donald-trump-fantasized-sex-ivanka-new-book-says

:rofl:

Keep trying Trumper. You're gonna lose when it comes to creepiness of candidates.

This post was edited by Pyrotechx on Jun 11 2024 08:16pm
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Was this before or after the Rapist Donald Trump defamed E. Jean Carrol? Or perhaps when he paid a pornstar to fuck him?

Or when he paid a playboy bunny to have sex with him?

Maybe it was before he told a 10 year old he would be dating her in 8 years?

OR MAYBE WHEN HE TOLD A LITERAL TALK SHOW HE WANTED TO FUCK HIS DAUGHTER

http://socket.newrepublic.com/post/173968/donald-trump-fantasized-sex-ivanka-new-book-says

:rofl:

Keep trying Trumper. You're gonna lose when it comes to creepiness of candidates.


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