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Aug 12 2022 06:37pm
Pretty obvious he committed a felony, possibly multiple, at this point. Still think nothing will happen but damn it'd be funny if he got clapped with a higher sentence due to a law change he signed off on to punish whistleblowers.

Funny shit.
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Aug 12 2022 06:39pm
Quote (YeeHaw @ 13 Aug 2022 02:11)
NYT nevertrump headline:

“Well that settles that”


:bonk:


displaying your reading skills again? you know what the "national archives" are?

but yeah, exactly what i said. trump bootlickers will just ignore he demonstrably lied about that, and just move on to the next moronic excuse...
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Aug 12 2022 06:42pm
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displaying your reading skills again? you know what the "national archives" are?

but yeah, exactly what i said. trump bootlickers will just ignore he demonstrably lied about that, and just move on to the next moronic excuse...



Has there ever been a pard-topic where Trump supporters were any closer to actually admitting their idol has undeniably outlived his usefulness?

This post was edited by TheOnlyDenny on Aug 12 2022 06:45pm
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Also scumfuck rightoids having fun doxxing the FBI agents and saying they need to be helicopter passengers...

Only a day since the last attempt at an attack on the FBI. Really pushing the terrorism atm.

Gonna be another attack almost certainly.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Aug 12 2022 12:19pm)
That is not what Navy v Egan determined. That ruling was based on the fact that the Navy removed Egan for cause under § 7512, and as such, the the review board didn't have the authority to review the substance of his clearance denial. Nuclear material would be covered as a national security concern under § 7532, and had the Navy removed Egan under 7532, the whole case would have been moot. As such, nothing in that case would give the President plenary authority outside of the Atomic Energy Act to declassify nuclear secrets.


Navy v Egan is one of the only court precedents to even entertain the concept of Presidential powers of classification, and that's why its being cited alongside EPA v Mink as the only two pieces of guidance anyone actually has on what the legality is. There's no actual substantive ruling setting formal precedent. And Navy v Egan suggested that no piece of legislation can infringe on the executive's declassification authority because that would be implicitly unconstitutional, including the Atomic Energy Act. That's why I made the point a hundred times this thread that this is all uncharted legal territory and there's no way to argue any clear violation of law or clearly permitted conduct, its resolutely grey area. Because to repeat myself, no functional democracy should ever need to settle precedent on issues like this, it shouldn't be tested in the first place.
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Aug 12 2022 06:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 12 2022 08:45pm)
Navy v Egan is one of the only court precedents to even entertain the concept of Presidential powers of classification, and that's why its being cited alongside EPA v Mink as the only two pieces of guidance anyone actually has on what the legality is. There's no actual substantive ruling setting formal precedent. And Navy v Egan suggested that no piece of legislation can infringe on the executive's declassification authority because that would be implicitly unconstitutional, including the Atomic Energy Act. That's why I made the point a hundred times this thread that this is all uncharted legal territory and there's no way to argue any clear violation of law or clearly permitted conduct, its resolutely grey area. Because to repeat myself, no functional democracy should ever need to settle precedent on issues like this, it shouldn't be tested in the first place.





In this... I blame the left. :)
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Aug 12 2022 06:53pm
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Has there ever been a pard-topic where Trump supporters were any closer to actually admitting their idol has undeniably outlived his usefulness?


the line about him having outlived his usefulness has been used before, mostly by hacks who pretended to "not even like" him and his bigoted views and awful behaviour, but still defended literally everything he did - and still do.

so i really don't think this marks some kind of meaningful change in attitude - and most of them don't even make this token disclaimer, are still fully on the trump train...
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Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Aug 12 2022 07:44pm)
Also scumfuck rightoids having fun doxxing the FBI agents and saying they need to be helicopter passengers...

Only a day since the last attempt at an attack on the FBI. Really pushing the terrorism atm.

Gonna be another attack almost certainly.



David Dorn? Oh, wait…

Quote (fender @ Aug 12 2022 07:39pm)
displaying your reading skills again? you know what the "national archives" are?

but yeah, exactly what i said. trump bootlickers will just ignore he demonstrably lied about that, and just move on to the next moronic excuse...



I am barely a trump tolerator, but you don’t pay enough attention to anything people say to understand anything beyond blind tribalism. I will be glad to admit wrongdoing when some wrongdoing is actually proven.
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Quote (YeeHaw @ 13 Aug 2022 02:56)
I am barely a trump tolerator, but you don’t pay enough attention to anything people say to understand anything beyond blind tribalism. I will be glad to admit wrongdoing when some wrongdoing is actually proven.


the national archives confirmed that trump lied about his predecessor, in a desperate attempt to downplay his mishandling of classified information. your reaction to that: "reeeee... NYT nevertrump.... donny didndonuthin... reeeee".

yeah sure, nice try, lol.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 12 2022 05:29pm)
Sure, he shouldn't have had them, but if the raid was based on charges like "violation of the Espionage Act", it does matter which documents they actually found at MAL.


They found SCI level docs (effectively "above top secret") and they allegedly found documents related to nuclear weapons. I really don't know what else you need?
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