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"Stand up Lewis"
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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 24 2022 07:08am)
Apparently you are completely incapable of seeing this problem from both sides. Which doesn't surprise me btw.


I can see the problem.. I just don't empathize with comrade Putin.
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Quote (fender @ Feb 24 2022 10:07am)
russia isn't liechtenstein. there is no possible way to first-strike their entire nuclear arsenal. fuck, even north korea, with its fledgling nuclear program and a land area approximately 140 times smaller (!) than russia is somewhat safe from an attack, despite all its transgressions and provocations. any serious attack on russia, surprise first strike or not, would inevitably result in nuclear armageddon. literally everyone knows that, i refuse to believe you're genuinely dumb enough not to. i think (and hope) this is just you trying to save face after being 100% wrong about every single aspect of this.


You don't know what you're talking about. There's a reason why during the cold war we put nukes in Turkey and when Russia tried to counter and match we drew the red line on Cuba. Proximity matters, but carry on with a one sided view of this issue.
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Quote (Djunior @ Feb 24 2022 10:14am)
You know, the dishonest users that are 24/7 spewing their woke propaganda in this sub and are simply showing what they're made of by hiding that they are here, SMH
It's what makes the PARD thread so great. It's the practical wild wild west, where any conspiracy theory is welcomed.



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Unfortunately, the d2jsp mods show their weakness when random threads in PARD get to over 700 pages.
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84156389&f=119
This thread needs to end. The kraken isn't coming.

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Probably Djunior didnt realise that we are from Poland. 50 years under Russia siege is enough to have some experience ^^
And we know well what we said.



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Quote (theCrossbones @ Feb 24 2022 04:16pm)
I can see the problem.. I just don't empathize with comrade Putin.


That kind of stance is not going to help anyone in this conflict...

Sadly it seems that this is going to spiral out of control. Unless NATO says eh, you know what, further expansion East really aint worth all out war. Lets back off, we had a good run anyways (seeing how many Eastern EU countries were able to join the alliance since the fall of USSR).

Which really would be the smartest move.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 24 2022 10:17am)
You don't know what you're talking about. There's a reason why during the cold war we put nukes in Turkey and when Russia tried to counter and match we drew the red line on Cuba. Proximity matters, but carry on with a one sided view of this issue.


thank god nukes and warfare generally havent changes since JFK
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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 24 2022 10:22am)
thank god nukes and warfare generally havent changes since JFK


They got faster sure but that doesn't really change the fact that if you're able to strike and neutralize your enemy within a few minutes, it could be the difference between only 1 or 35 of their nukes being launched and reaching a target

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You don't know what you're talking about. There's a reason why during the cold war we put nukes in Turkey and when Russia tried to counter and match we drew the red line on Cuba. Proximity matters, but carry on with a one sided view of this issue.


That never happened. The USSR escalated by putting nukes into Cuba for absolutely no reason other than them being scary monsters who want to kill us in our sleep. Then Adlai Stevenson and JFK declared a not-blockade and bravely stood up to Khrushchev face-to-face and the Russians blinked. It was an unmitigated capitulation with nothing given on our part due to the masterful handling of JFK. Its like you never paid attention in history class while the schools taught you the official version of history.
Don't you remember what McGeorge Bundy wrote? “We are aiming at dangerous reporting assisted by irresponsible or careless officials. And this kind of reporting exists, and there are such officials"
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