i will never say one bad thing about the U.S. in general, they have been our alley for decades, and politics were always been a part of the game. thing is, at the current time America has changed, i would prefer Israel to take care of itself since America is too deep in thier own shit to make anything on a practical level in the middle east against Iran. Israel can act and take a hit at the same time just fine. millitary wise.. i would also prefer that on the long term my country will rely less on the U.S for supplies.

i would expect the idea to grow roots after we are done with this round, the local talks inside Israel are all going on this direction.

long term from my point of view - when Saudi Arabia and Israel will normalize its relationships , it will be a matter of time until the iranian current regime will die. it might be decades, but its either this or its the opposite way around - a full blown war from all sides of the middle east.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 9 2024 07:55am

Opening trade war, Turkey imposes restrictions on Israel until Gaza ceasefire
Ankara’s trade ministry lists 54 items that will not be exported to Israel, which says it will draw up its own ‘extensive’ inventory of Turkish products it will ban

https://www.timesofisrael.com/opening-trade-war-turkey-imposes-restrictions-on-israel-until-gaza-ceasefire/

Turkey's coin is the sewers, much like Iran's.

shows a lot about how things are on the inside of these idiot countries.

those restrictions are merely a come-back for hurting their ego by not allowing them ( as it should ) to interfere with supplying Gaza.

thing is, you are like a news-freak @zorzin .. truth in this matter, is that industrial-sharks and well-known business calibers are gonna keep trading from both sides.
it's more of a headline than what it's going to be in reality. i could not care less about Turkey under the terrorist Erdogan and his fail economy.

he was always jealous of Bibi. one can see in in every sentence the guy spew out over the years.
not that im saying that Bibi is a role model or something.. but that's reality.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 9 2024 09:35am

I guess it's time to juge and punish Israel's Likud and related assassins ?

In the Gaza Strip, war crimes are multiplying with the help of artificial intelligence

After six months of war, as Israel begins to scale back its military presence in Gaza, the veil is being lifted on the mechanics of the cataclysm that befell the Palestinian enclave. The toll of the Israeli operation launched on October 7, 2023, in response to the massacre and hostage-taking perpetrated by Hamas in the south of Israel, is widely known: 33,175 dead and 75,886 wounded as of April 7, with women and children accounting for around 70% of these victims, according to the Gaza Strip's health authorities. And an undetermined number of bodies, estimated at several thousand, remain buried in the rubble.
What has become clearer in recent days is the modus operandi of this massacre − the making of what human rights defenders consider to be mass war crimes.

(www.lemonde.fr)

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the +972 article/investigation:
https://www.972mag.com/mass-assassination-factory-israel-calculated-bombing-gaza/
I checked all pictures, is ok for posting here.

I didnt check the other, feel free to post it if you have it, it's over anyway, we know these people worth less than terrorists now.

you and anyone else cant do shit. just cry out in internet forums.

Hamas supporter.

No fucking shit Sherlock. This is an attempt by erdogan to placate the masses because he's starting to lose support from his people; the recent elections prove this.

These news articles are not significant by themselves but they add up and they are becoming more frequent. You have a li.oted window to finish off rafah, somehow win the propaganda war in the west and still deal with iran/yemen/iraq/syria.

Go on big shoot, tell me in your expert opinion how Israel will manage to do that without the help of the states.

clueless freak. basic stuff, just simple basic stuff you speak shitload of nonsense about.

why the fuck would we need to deal with Iran/Yemen/Iraq/Syria ?

#1 we are already dealing with Syria the way WE choose to for more than 15 years. air strikes, when we choose to, where we choose to. including radioactive\nuclear stuff that the media knows, and some stuff that most people can only dream of.
#2 Iraq and Yemen are nothing we care about. not our concern one bit. you actually think those terrorists with sand-sandals blocking ships and firing multi million dollar ballistic Iranian missiles are interesting from Israel point of view ? please.. wake the fuck up from your illusion, it's simply the Iranian checking Israeli defense capabilities. it bothers Saudi Arabia, the Brits, EGYPT etc far more than we care. we have plenty of defensive miracles to deal with those expensive missiles. when they will be a real concern* for Israel, you will see actions.
#3 Iran is the only thing that matters as far as Israel concern strategically and on the long run. that's it.

again you prove to me over and over that all these statements besides the links you are posting, are based on sand. your knowledge on basics is laughable.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 9 2024 11:04am

Your timeline is wrong. Russia didnt intervene until after the US intervened. Nobody said Putin planned the flow of migrants from the start, but he absolutely chose to weaponize them once they started, by purposefully dragging out the war and not rushing to secure the country for Assad. The US was still arming ISIS / Al Qaeda groups to fight against Assad for the 2011-2013 span. It served to provoke Russia and try to drag them into a proxy war. And come 2014, with ISIS now a global threat Obama did his 180 flip and armed the Kurds to kill ISIS to hand the country back to Assad, which I've been criticizing ever since as schizophrenic and profoundly moronic foreign policy. And then in 2015 when America was already roped into doing Putin's bidding, Russia put their boots on the ground and advanced simultaneously with the kurds
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_intervention_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

Whats notable is how Obama had got elected on a message of avoiding Bush's foreign policy mistakes, yet this one was even more of a strategic fuckup, if not as costly. The Iraq war and withdrawal left heavy weapons in the hands of sunni radicals who formed ISIS, then even when it was clear the threat they posed the CIA continued to arm them to fight Assad for a few years until we armed the one group that the Turks hate with a passion and thus weakened our NATO alliance while still betraying the Kurd to Erdogan anyway to appease him, and all in service of giving Syria back to Assad and Putin on a silver platter. And all Putin the 'master strategist' had to do to profit was refuse to get dragged into a proxy war for a few years, leaving Assad hanging

i'd argue that obama got elected on the promise of less US troop involvement. and when it came to his drone campaign and foolish choice to arm rebels instead of going boots on the ground he was a success. its just that when we dont do the job the results are even worse and lead to far more fallout.

you sound scared but I can imagine the collective Israeli unconscious is pretty guilt-ridden at this point. i'd be scared too