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Apr 8 2024 02:06pm
Quote (zorzin @ Apr 8 2024 09:03pm)
There was a time not too long ago where if you told me a bunch of sand boys were launching missles/drones DAILY on multiple American bases throughout the middle east with literally no retribution on America's part I would have told you to put the Crack pipe down...... and yet here we are.

I don't care if no one else in this thread understands the importance of these attacks, you only show your child-like grasp of the situation.

In other news, the ceasefire in Cairo broke down and bibi set a date (for the 5th time) for rafah, so we're gona get some awesome war footage


Only you seem to acknowledge the importance :)

Your playing up a literal drop in the ocean.

You think the US didn't have a hand in obliterating the IRGC commanders in Syria? :rolleyes:

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Only you seem to acknowledge the importance :)

Your playing up a literal drop in the ocean.

You think the US didn't have a hand in obliterating the IRGC commanders in Syria? :rolleyes:


Attacking American bases has never been a drop in the ocean and nothing you day will ever change this fact.

And no, the Israelis are completely self sufficient when it comes to wracking whoever they please, you ain't gona win this talking point fam
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Quote (ferdia @ 8 Apr 2024 21:39)
so no bombing before going in to Rafa then. great.


Its very hard to speak to someone who has zero knowledge about warfare?
have you served in the military? have you been in actual warzone?
I'v been numerous times, I know how it works, I know how it feel, and I know you have no idea of what you are talking about.

If we need to bomb we will bomb, there are no "rules" to war like some of your liberals friend taught you.
be sure that your enemy will do what ever it can and use what ever it can put his hands on.
than we will see if you fight "fair" and provide aid like we are forced to do.


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Quote (zorzin @ Apr 8 2024 09:44pm)
Attacking American bases has never been a drop in the ocean and nothing you day will ever change this fact.

And no, the Israelis are completely self sufficient when it comes to wracking whoever they please, you ain't gona win this talking point fam


It's already won junior :thumbsup:
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 9 Apr 2024 00:04)
It's already won junior :thumbsup:


you literally speak to a guy who was wrong in his every assumption during the debate here
even a broken clock gets it right twice a day.

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The fact is that American bases and international shipping in seas supposed to be secured by America are coming under frequent attack, and America is losing a proxy war at the same time, and an all-out economic blockade on Russia completely failed, and that's besides all the ways China is eating our lunch. Its not just a matter of our response or lack thereof, its the fact that the rest of the world sees how weak we are. Projecting strength and maintaining american hegemony was never about being warhawks and interventionalists, and it was those morons who bled away our grip on the world. It was about speaking softly and making sure we don't need to use the big stick.

Israel is still acting within its rational self interests. America isn't. And our inability to take a coherent stance on Israel is yet one more facet of how America is slipping. Biden got hog tied and thrown in the bed of a pickup truck by radicals who literally chant 'death to america' in a swing state, leaves our foreign policy rudderless when the world is busy blowing up around us. Now there might be some element of that indecisiveness being inherent to a democracy as opposed to a dictatorship, but fucking hell, that's precisely why the founding fathers dreamed up a presidency in the first place.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 8 2024 11:40pm)
The fact is that American bases and international shipping in seas supposed to be secured by America are coming under frequent attack, and America is losing a proxy war at the same time, and an all-out economic blockade on Russia completely failed, and that's besides all the ways China is eating our lunch. Its not just a matter of our response or lack thereof, its the fact that the rest of the world sees how weak we are. Projecting strength and maintaining american hegemony was never about being warhawks and interventionalists, and it was those morons who bled away our grip on the world. It was about speaking softly and making sure we don't need to use the big stick.

Israel is still acting within its rational self interests. America isn't. And our inability to take a coherent stance on Israel is yet one more facet of how America is slipping. Biden got hog tied and thrown in the bed of a pickup truck by radicals who literally chant 'death to america' in a swing state, leaves our foreign policy rudderless when the world is busy blowing up around us. Now there might be some element of that indecisiveness being inherent to a democracy as opposed to a dictatorship, but fucking hell, that's precisely why the founding fathers dreamed up a presidency in the first place.


Whats wrong with that? Why should 300 million lead tyranny on 6700 million?

The greatest act of liberty isn´t a country in africa or middle east "becoming" a "democracy(read:satelite)", but for the world to turn multipolar

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Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Apr 2024 00:40)
The fact is that American bases and international shipping in seas supposed to be secured by America are coming under frequent attack, and America is losing a proxy war at the same time, and an all-out economic blockade on Russia completely failed, and that's besides all the ways China is eating our lunch. Its not just a matter of our response or lack thereof, its the fact that the rest of the world sees how weak we are. Projecting strength and maintaining american hegemony was never about being warhawks and interventionalists, and it was those morons who bled away our grip on the world. It was about speaking softly and making sure we don't need to use the big stick.

Israel is still acting within its rational self interests. America isn't. And our inability to take a coherent stance on Israel is yet one more facet of how America is slipping. Biden got hog tied and thrown in the bed of a pickup truck by radicals who literally chant 'death to america' in a swing state, leaves our foreign policy rudderless when the world is busy blowing up around us. Now there might be some element of that indecisiveness being inherent to a democracy as opposed to a dictatorship, but fucking hell, that's precisely why the founding fathers dreamed up a presidency in the first place.


explain it to the self righteous suicidal liberals that think they know what war is🤦
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Quote (ownyaah @ Apr 8 2024 04:42pm)
Whats wrong with that? Why should 300 million lead tyranny on 6700 million?

The greatest act of liberty isn´t a country in africa or middle east "becoming" a "democracy(read:satelite)", but for the world to turn multipolar


Do you think a multipolar world is a stable system?
Not that I think the liberty of any other country is America's interest anyway, its their interest. Its our interest to both lead those 6700m and maintain their stability, not necessarily to their own benefit.
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Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 9 2024 12:54am)
Do you think a multipolar world is a stable system?
Not that I think the liberty of any other country is America's interest anyway, its their interest. Its our interest to both lead those 6700m and maintain their stability, not necessarily to their own benefit.


Based, good take.

As for the question, stable in what sense? It will definitely lead to more war/conflict because the status quo has been broken --> power balance politics, but war isn´t inherently an unjust thing.

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