Because when you have a western liberal set of mind, you can’t accept that there won’t be a vast objection to war.
Specially when they are pumped with “genocide” all day long so he assume that not all Israelis are pro-war.
I wonder what do we know that the west don’t.
Btw, still waiting for those starving children the UN spoke about two weeks ago.

We are not pro war we want this shit to end once and for all.
And with Hamas in charge this wont happened.

When I mean pro-war I meant the goals which Israel declared which are to end Hamas and retrieve the hostages.
Thank you for the clarification.

sorry the train of events here is :


1. I outlined that there there is no evidence of vast objection to the war.


2. meanwhile outlined that the %'s are not so extreme but that there is a large % that support the war.


3. To get a different opinion from meanwhile, I asked if what we are highlighting is wrong.


4. Many_Names made an assumption/projected, which is in direct conflict with what i stated in 1. above. i.e. I dont assume Israel wants to stop the war and i stated above the %'s.


5. You then came in behind Many_Names and doubled down on his viewpoint. I can totally accept that there wont be a vast objection to the war. From a cultural standpoint, Israel is at a point in its journey where it is very happy with the current state of affairs re: Gaza.

From your statements it is being inferred that you want to kill everyone and that there is no vast objection to war, which is EXACTLY WHAT I SAID IN 1, above.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 8 2024 09:36am

Where have I said that I want to kill everyone ?
I want the hostages. I want Hamas not to be in charge of Gaza.
And then I want the Palestinians to acknowledge the Jewish state , drop their claim to the land and go build there own show.

This post was edited by WhiteSouned on Apr 8 2024 09:35am

i would prefer for my own sake, my family sake and any Israeli and Jew in particular, to copy-paste Israel to an Island and live without the need for an army\military and leave this nonsense behind.
my point is, i don't care who has the bigger tool military wise. the need has been forced on us since 1948.

so by saying Israel is a paper-tiger you are proving to me that you are a dumb-ass. do you think it's some kinda competition ? will Iran win ? will Israel have an easy time handling several war conflicts at the same time ?

1. the attack on American bases is pathetic. their only card is - proxies, and more proxies, until they will have a fully, safe, 100% nuclear capability. that's all they care, they don't care about anything else including inflation, economy and their own people.

2. every little piece of information you have about Hezbollah attacking Israeli sites and military sites is again - an open information. what the media does not know, and does not need to know is that every living thing is southern Lebanon is afraid and unwilling to engage further
against the IDF. and as it should be. meaning: Hezbollah is doing exactly what Israel is expecting him to do and nothing beyond that limit that WE ( silently ) gave him permission to do. the evacuation of northern villages and some cities was planned all along, and the financial damage
was also taken into consideration.

3. Israel is attacking assets in Lebanon, Syria on our terms. not going to Beirut at the moment is strategic. we might even not go further in this round, it might happen in 15 years even, again the point is - we are choosing the time and place.

4. i don't full agree with every step that my government took in this war, but everything i stated so far had nothing to do with the simple truth: if Iran will risk direct war with Israel, than you can expect me to laugh on everything you posted and i will sure come back to do it.
Iran has capability, it does not have the means to hurt Israel in a way that Israel will hurt Iran, Lebanon and Syria all together. again those are not bold statements, those are simply truth's since i know my own country\military capability and experience from every aspect - defense, offense, intelligent, etc.

5. it's 6 months and in those 6 months there are 30-35k Palestinians dead, around 13k are Hamas personals, maybe 10k+ more are Hamas families. what you fail to understand is that Gaza is a shit-hole filled with tunnels and 130+ Israeli hostages.
that's it, simply as that. if Israel wanted to clean Gaza, it will 3 hours. you should kiss our toes for being too humanitarian and killing so little and taking shit from the entire world while our civilians are evacuated and bombed. you sir, could not deal with it
and you would piss your pants on the first alarm. again - i would kill over 200K+ Palestinians for October 7th. America, Russia, Syria.. any country to be honest would kill a million after such a thing.. so why Israel is different ? might just be jealousy and anti antisemitism combined.

paper tiger should be aimed at America. at least America at the current state... it's such a shame. fear not, Israel will handle it with or without America.

on the short run of course we need ammo and weapons and etc.. on the long run, i simply hope that we will go back to past-days of decades ago, where we needed very little aid from outsides.
i got buddies and family in America, so i know it's simply not the same America and i frankly don't care... it's thier problem. maybe Trump will save them.

same thing with EU countries.

on the future ahead all of those clowns will pay us to advise them and ask for defensive technologies and weapons ( already happening on a smaller scale ) since you don't see miles ahead.. Islamtopia is a matter of time
for most of you, and if not you - than your children. you are just too liberal right now to see it.

good luck, you will need it, maybe your kids or gran-kids.. whatever.

This post was edited by darksoho on Apr 8 2024 09:42am

Where did I say I want to kill everyone?
I said this ends with Hamas gone.
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OK sorry ( i am saying sorry alot at the moment ).

There is actually quite alot in your post. feel free to answer any of these:

1. Would you agree that the government of Israel has refused to make tough decisions to get the hostages back?
2. If Hamas was elected, if Hamas were to be removed, what makes you think about this war that any leadership of Gaza will not be Anti-Israeli ?
3. Israel has not defined its own borders, so no one can actually acknowledge where the line on the map Israel ends. What land are you referring to ? Gaza ? The West Bank ? Where ? and what is their claim exactly?

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 8 2024 09:43am

I am pretty sure that you have repeatedly said there is no distinction between Hamas and a Palestinian, and that there are no innocents in Gaza and words to the effect of "kill them all". Do you want me to get quotes ? It might take a while but I suppose I will go look for them for you. You cannot destroy an idea. yes you can kill the leadership of hamas but the likelyhood is something even worse then Hamas will replace it.

This post was edited by ferdia on Apr 8 2024 09:44am

Majority in Gaza supports Hamas. Fact.
Civilians in Gaza held hostages in their homes. Fact.
Civilians in Gaza participated in 10/7 attack. Fact.
I never said kill them all nor I said that every single Hamas member needs to die. Don’t expect me to feel sorry for them though.