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Mar 16 2016 09:34am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 16 2016 09:31am)
you offered the googled definition of it, luckily the Us Supreme Court is a bit more thorough than you...


Yes the real definition.
You can interpret anywhere to be a prison including the United states in a whole.
You have to go to school until the age of 18 could be considered forcing children into
camps to educate them to be who you want them to be. Also parents are jailed if their
children to not go to these education camps certainly could be seen as putting
people into the hole for not making your children go to these education camps.

Just because a court is called Supreme does not make them correct 100% of the time.

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Yes the real definition.
You can interpret anywhere to be a prison including the United states in a whole.
You have to go to school until the age of 18 could be considered forcing children into
camps to educate them to be who you want them to be. Also parents are jailed if their
children to not go to these education camps certainly could be seen as putting
people into the hole for not making your children go to these education camps.

Just because a court is called Supreme does not make them correct 100% of the time.


smokescreen. deflect. smokescreen. deflect.

I guess if that's all you have my work here is done. Semantics of legal definitions have no place in the discussion, i will take your use of them as you conceding. All of the falsehoods you're attempting to use as justification have been decided on time and again with legal precedent. Your personal opinion means nothing objectively compared to this precedent. You're wrong, most easily identified by your logical fallacies and attempts at semantics.
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Mar 16 2016 09:42am
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smokescreen. deflect. smokescreen. deflect.

I guess if that's all you have my work here is done. Semantics of legal definitions have no place in the discussion, i will take your use of them as you conceding. All of the falsehoods you're attempting to use as justification have been decided on time and again with legal precedent. Your personal opinion means nothing objectively compared to this precedent. You're wrong, most easily identified by your logical fallacies and attempts at semantics.


No I am providing you with legal definitions of words you are deflecting not me.
That is cool though I wouldn't mind if you were done making yourself seem more silly
the you already do trying to re-define words to fit your means is a new low, even for democrats.

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Mar 16 2016 09:48am
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No I am providing you with legal definitions of words you are deflecting not me.
That is cool though I wouldn't mind if you were done making yourself seem more silly
the you already do trying to re-define words to fit your means is a new low, even for democrats.


no you googled prison and then copy pasta's the stickied google response. How do i know that? because i googled it and then chose an actual site with a full definition. Your definition isnt a legal definition by any metric, at all.

also i'm not a democrat, nice try though. Don't worry you can swing and miss 3 times before they make you go back and ride the pine.
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no you googled prison and then copy pasta's the stickied google response. How do i know that? because i googled it and then chose an actual site with a full definition. Your definition isnt a legal definition by any metric, at all.

also i'm not a democrat, nice try though. Don't worry you can swing and miss 3 times before they make you go back and ride the pine.


You could of at least looked up the legal definition then cause you are still wrong here it is:

Prison:

A correctional, detention, or penal facility. 18 USC. A legal prison is the building designated by law, or used by the sheriff, for the confinement, or detention of those whose persons are judicially ordered to be kept in custody.

Judicially Definition:

pertaining to judgment in courts of justice or to the administration of justice: judicial proceedings; the judicial system. 2. pertaining to courts of law or to judges
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Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 09:51am)
You could of at least looked up the legal definition then cause you are still wrong here it is:

Prison:

A correctional, detention, or penal facility. 18 USC. A legal prison is the building designated by law, or used by the sheriff, for the confinement, or detention of those whose persons are judicially ordered to be kept in custody.

Judicially Definition:

pertaining to judgment in courts of justice or to the administration of justice: judicial proceedings; the judicial system. 2. pertaining to courts of law or to judges


that definition is correct, your interpretation of it is not.

The tents were detention centers as defined above, it is illegal by the law of the constitution to detain someone indefinitely without a trial following due process. As no trial or charge was levied and no due process was followed the detention was unconstitutional. That has been the point from the beginning, if you don't understand that perhaps you need to read this:



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that definition is correct, your interpretation of it is not.

The tents were detention centers as defined above, it is illegal by the law of the constitution to detain someone infeinantly without a trial following due process. As no trial or charge was levied and no due process was followed the detention was unconstitutional. That has been the point from the beginning, if you don't understand that perhaps you need to read this:

http://images.bookoutlet.com/covers/large/isbn978076/9780764587801-l.jpg


None of the holding them in the camps had anything to do with judicial proceedings which means they were not prisons.
But keep picking one of my sentences and trying to turn it around even though I clearly explain everytime how you are wrong.
Next time read the whole definition here I will bold the important part which makes a prison a prison.



Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 09:51am)
You could of at least looked up the legal definition then cause you are still wrong here it is:

Prison:

A correctional, detention, or penal facility. 18 USC. A legal prison is the building designated by law, or used by the sheriff, for the confinement, or detention of those whose persons are judicially ordered to be kept in custody.

Judicially Definition:

pertaining to judgment in courts of justice or to the administration of justice: judicial proceedings; the judicial system. 2. pertaining to courts of law or to judges


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Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 09:59am)
None of the holding them in the camps had anything to do with judicial proceedings which means they were not prisons.
But keep picking one of my sentences and trying to turn it around even though I clearly explain everytime how you are wrong.
Next time read the whole definition here I will bold the important part which makes a prison a prison.


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President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the deportation and incarceration with Executive Order 9066,


perhaps now you need a history lesson on the role of Executive orders in the US government and judiciary process.

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perhaps now you need a history lesson on the role of Executive orders in the US government and judiciary process.


Executive Order 9066 was a United States presidential executive order signed and issued during World War II by the United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt on February 19, 1942, authorizing the Secretary of War to prescribe certain areas as military zones, clearing the way for the deportation of Japanese Americans to internment camps.

Internment camps, not prisons.
- Wikipedia

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Mar 16 2016 10:07am
Quote (GamingOn @ Mar 16 2016 10:04am)
Executive Order 9066 was a United States presidential executive order signed and issued during World War II by the United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt on February 19, 1942, authorizing the Secretary of War to prescribe certain areas as military zones, clearing the way for the deportation of Japanese Americans to internment camps.

Internment camps, not prisons.
- Wikipedia


really thats the best you've got? the same semantics argument i already squashed. we're circling back now, you're moving the goal posts so much i'd be shocked if you could even recount this discussion without re-reading it.
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