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Feb 22 2023 09:52am
Quote (Landmine @ Feb 22 2023 03:48pm)
None of this would of happened under trump. Warmongering democrats back in power.


well this is true.
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Quote (Landmine @ 22 Feb 2023 16:48)
None of this would of happened under trump.


true. under trump ukraine would already be history now, and russia would already be targeting moldova and georgia again. he really did everything in his power to weaken ukraine: he defied congress to lift sanctions against russia, withheld congressionally sanctioned military aid to ukraine, unilaterally withdrew from the open skies treaty, despite ukrainian pleas not to do that... he really tried to serve it on a silver platter to his master in moscow...
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Quote (fender @ Feb 22 2023 08:59am)
true. under trump ukraine would already be history now, and russia would already be targeting moldova and georgia again. he really did everything in his power to weaken ukraine: he defied congress to lift sanctions against russia, withheld congressionally sanctioned military aid to ukraine, unilaterally withdrew from the open skies treaty, despite ukrainian pleas not to do that... he really tried to serve it on a silver platter to his master in moscow...



No one in the United States cares about Ukraine. No one wants to fight ww3 over another land war. This would be like Texas separating and 10 years later unite states takes it back. Russia…China wouldn’t say a thing. Go away warmongering descendant of Hitler.
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No one in the United States cares about Ukraine. No one wants to fight ww3 over another land war. This would be like Texas separating and 10 years later unite states takes it back. Russia…China wouldn’t say a thing. Go away warmongering descendant of Hitler.


for allegedly not caring you sure have a lot of anger, lol.
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for allegedly not caring you sure have a lot of anger, lol.



Says the one that’s okay with a nuclear war.
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Says the one that’s okay with a nuclear war.


no wonder you're so angry with such terrible logic skills. xD
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 22 2023 04:38am)
Nordstream denial

Basically means there is no point talking to you, because even obviously true things will be contested.

Like I said half the thread ago: Who cares? The opinions of Westerners are going to matter less and less every single year. The West drew even or worse on the economic war, are losing are losing the military war, and has lost the global public opinion war.
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Feb 22 2023 11:34am
Quote (Landmine @ 22 Feb 2023 23:48)
None of this would of happened under trump. Warmongering democrats back in power.


This is kinda true. That being said Trump led Republican wants to have a " war " with China while Democrats wants a " war " with Russia.
If we look at it in a different manner, Trump led Republican although a trade war is ongoing the chances of war with China will be slightly minimized because they would have rebuild their relationship with Putin and Russia will act as some sort of buffer for China's Belt and Road program.
This will force the Chinese government and push back their BRI program or at least stifle it for another 15 to 20 years.

One of the major disappointment during Trump's presidency is the pull out from TPP. The TPP is created to counter Chinese Asean trade and foreign policy which was part of Obama's pivot East initiative.
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Feb 22 2023 11:44am
Quote (kusotarre1 @ 22 Feb 2023 18:22)
Basically means there is no point talking to you, because even obviously true things will be contested.

Like I said half the thread ago: Who cares? The opinions of Westerners are going to matter less and less every single year.The West drew even or worse on the economic war, are losing are losing the military war, and has lost the global public opinion war.


Free World is more accurate. After that: which regime is the worse in-between Authoritarian Han CCP, Russian gangsterocracy, Iran Theocracy, or North Korea's supreme dictatorshit ... Hard question, or not !

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Feb 22 2023 11:45am
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Quote (kusotarre1 @ Feb 22 2023 11:22am)
Basically means there is no point talking to you, because even obviously true things will be contested.

Like I said half the thread ago: Who cares? The opinions of Westerners are going to matter less and less every single year. The West drew even or worse on the economic war, are losing are losing the military war, and has lost the global public opinion war.


in Afghanistan history weapons supplied to literal cave dwellers held off the Russians and US armies, and this investment was seen as a resounding success. tossing weapons into a proxy way to bleed your opponent is a W, not an L. Bleeding russia to let the west keep half of Ukraine is a more successful campaign than both Iraq wars and Afghanistan combined, at likely 1/10th the cost.
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