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Jan 6 2023 03:15pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 6 Jan 2023 16:10)
You've been badly outmatched in every interaction so far.
Being offended in not an argument.


I am not trying to offend you. If you are offended by being wrong, that problem can be solved by you understanding that you are wrong, and then correcting yourself.

Which you are plainly wrong...

Just stop spewing some stupid bullshit that you saw in some FB meme that was probably created by some moron...

They probably just took the exact insulting statement that is commonly used against members of right wing political parties and then swapped the political party with out understanding what any of the words even mean...

It's just some person applying the "You're Rubber, I'm Glue" informal fallacy and you're suppose to be smart enough to know that...

This post was edited by mki on Jan 6 2023 03:16pm
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Quote (mki @ Jan 6 2023 04:15pm)
I am not trying to offend you. If you are offended by being wrong, that problem can be solved by you understanding that you are wrong, and then correcting yourself.

Which you are plainly wrong...

Just stop spewing some stupid bullshit that you saw in some FB meme that was probably created by some moron...

They probably just took the exact insulting statement that is commonly used against members of right wing political parties and then swapping the political party with out understanding what any of the words even mean...

It's just some person applying the "You're Rubber, You're Glue" informal fallacy and you're suppose to be smart enough to know that...


Classic dunning-kruger. You are the low level NPC here.

Me: Taxation is theft
You: "IM OFFENDED. HOW DARE YOU!"

You: Left wing authoritarianism doesn't exist!
Me: Actually Left wing authoritarianism does exist and fascism is closer to mainstream democrats than it is to limited government advocates on the right
You: "STOP THE BS. THIS IS PATHETIC!"

Truly a stellar intellectual takedown of my positions.
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Jan 6 2023 03:20pm
since youre too stupid

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Fascism is extreme authoritarianism


fascism is far-right authoritarianism combined with nationalism, and fascists are generally opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism, socialism and Marxism

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It features strict government control of the economy.


not necessarily - Fascist economics supported a state-controlled economy that accepted a mix of private and public ownership over the means of production. Economic planning was applied to both the public and private sector and the prosperity of private enterprise depended on its acceptance of synchronizing itself with the economic goals of the state. Fascist economic ideology supported the profit motive, but emphasized that industries must uphold the national interest as superior to private profit.
fascism incorporates elements of both capitalism and socialism. Fascist economists advocate for self-sufficiency and individual profit, but promote government subsidies of corporations

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This closely describes what the US has become and what it is becoming.

????????
need some examples of how this is "what the US has become and what it is becoming"

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'But the left-center authoritarians say fascism is right wing!'
Doesn't matter.
Fascism lines up with what democrats believe far moreso than any limited government advocate on the right.


this is where you are dead wrong, the modern day GOP is far more fascist than any political 'left' in the USA, its not even comparable . Trump wanted to be a dictator so bad and all his hog muppets loved him for it. theres a reason so many greasy people like you love to lick his boots


thanks for coming to my TED talk

This post was edited by joswann1 on Jan 6 2023 03:21pm
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Jan 6 2023 03:24pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 6 Jan 2023 16:20)
Classic dunning-kruger.


And you know don't what the Dunning-Kruger effect is either...

The Dunning-Kruger effect is when people over state their own personal intelligence because it is very difficult to self assess things like your own intelligence level. This is why we have things like standardized testing to evaluate that...

I am personally just repeating high school level civics class level information here and apparently the school district you went to didn't teach civics because you have completely flipped basic level information...

Edit: You're not even listening to me either. I'm flat out saying "Hey if you want to call democrats something like a socialist or a communist, it's technically not true, but it makes sense." Instead you are insisting that a statement that makes as little sense (none) as "The Republicans Are Communists" is perfectly valid.

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Russia collusion 2.0

you think people would be mad about being lied to into believing bullshit, nope... they peddle the next bullshit lol
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Jan 6 2023 03:36pm
Quote (joswann1 @ Jan 6 2023 04:20pm)
since youre too stupid


I guarantee you I'm smarter and more informed than you, and its not close.

You desperately need to pretend any critic of the left is a buffoon or your worldview comes crashing down.

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fascism is far-right authoritarianism combined with nationalism, and fascists are generally opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism, socialism and Marxism


You are starting from the position that it is far-right and saying its far right.

My position is that it has far more in common with mainstream left authoritarianism than limited government advocates.

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not necessarily - Fascist economics supported a state-controlled economy that accepted a mix of private and public ownership over the means of production. Economic planning was applied to both the public and private sector and the prosperity of private enterprise depended on its acceptance of synchronizing itself with the economic goals of the state. Fascist economic ideology supported the profit motive, but emphasized that industries must uphold the national interest as superior to private profit.
fascism incorporates elements of both capitalism and socialism. Fascist economists advocate for self-sufficiency and individual profit, but promote government subsidies of corporations


'Not necessarily' ..and you go on to regurgitate a definition describing that yes in fact it is authoritarian government control of the economy and a merger between corporation/economy and state as I said.
None of this is news to me.

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this is where you are dead wrong, the modern day GOP is far more fascist than any political 'left' in the USA, its not even comparable . Trump wanted to be a dictator so bad and all his hog muppets loved him for it. theres a reason so many greasy people like you love to lick his boots

thanks for coming to my TED talk


No, this is where YOU are clearly and inarguably wrong.
The democrat platform is bigger government and more government control across the board.
What is their vision for taxes? Government spending? What is the green new deal? how do they feel about economic freedom and free markets?
To honestly answer these questions is to concede the point.

You can't defend the point on facts so you go on a TDS rant.

This is not to say that the GOP is good or completely different, but to deny that democrats are authoritarian is definitively wrong.
Going on an ego trip and calling me stupid for stating the truth when you were wrong is a flaw in your character.

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Jan 6 2023 03:38pm
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since youre too stupid



fascism is far-right authoritarianism combined with nationalism, and fascists are generally opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, liberalism, socialism and Marxism



not necessarily - Fascist economics supported a state-controlled economy that accepted a mix of private and public ownership over the means of production. Economic planning was applied to both the public and private sector and the prosperity of private enterprise depended on its acceptance of synchronizing itself with the economic goals of the state. Fascist economic ideology supported the profit motive, but emphasized that industries must uphold the national interest as superior to private profit.
fascism incorporates elements of both capitalism and socialism. Fascist economists advocate for self-sufficiency and individual profit, but promote government subsidies of corporations


????????
need some examples of how this is "what the US has become and what it is becoming"



this is where you are dead wrong, the modern day GOP is far more fascist than any political 'left' in the USA, its not even comparable . Trump wanted to be a dictator so bad and all his hog muppets loved him for it. theres a reason so many greasy people like you love to lick his boots


thanks for coming to my TED talk


lol at fraud lefties
fascism is far right, its right next to libertarian .................

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"no true libertarian would ever support a culture where citizens must show their papers to travel"

Quote (mki @ Jan 6 2023 01:24pm)
And you know don't what the Dunning-Kruger effect is either...

The Dunning-Kruger effect is when people over state their own personal intelligence because it is very difficult to self assess things like your own intelligence level. This is why we have things like standardized testing to evaluate that...

I am personally just repeating high school level civics class level information here and apparently the school district you went to didn't teach civics because you have completely flipped basic level information...

Edit: You're not even listening to me either. I'm flat out saying "Hey if you want to call democrats something like a socialist or a communist, it's technically not true, but it makes sense." Instead you are insisting that a statement that makes as little sense (none) as "The Republicans Are Communists" is perfectly valid.


wasnt it a couple of days ago you said the people at jan6th should of been guned down........
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Jan 6 2023 03:40pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 6 Jan 2023 16:36)
You are starting from the position that it is far-right and saying its far right.


That's because it is...

Quote (cambovenzi @ 6 Jan 2023 16:36)
My position is that it has far more in common with mainstream left authoritarianism than limited government advocates.


Dude there is giant groups of socialists on Reddit and they are clearly on the left... Hello? Earth to cambovenzi... Please try listening to us... We are not trying to mislead you here...
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Quote (TiStuff @ 6 Jan 2023 16:38)
wasnt it a couple of days ago you said the people at jan6th should of been guned down........


I believe I said they were lucky if that they were not, but yes I do agree they should have been gunned down.

That's not my personal opinion on the matter, but rather that is the US policy...

They attacked the US government, the correct response from a military perspective would be to uh, honestly they should have been killed using drones to minimize the loss of civilian life.

Got it?

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Quote (mki @ Jan 6 2023 04:40pm)
That's because it is...



Dude there is giant groups of socialists on Reddit and they are clearly on the left... Hello? Earth to cambovenzi... Please try listening to us... We are not trying to mislead you here...


Giant groups of socialists existing on reddit debunks my points how exactly?

You can't contend with the points so you deflect. Its the same in every thread.
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