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Nov 23 2022 12:48pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 23 2022 07:38pm)
yes, all well and good. that still isn't what hypocrisy means. 2 faced? yes. potentially bad business practice to insult one of your suppliers? yes. not what hypocrisy means tho.

hypocrisy means telling someone "dont do _____" even though you have:

a. have done ___ and dont feel sorry
b. have done and will continue to do _____
c. will do _____ (at which point you become a hypocrite)



I posted a thread years ago showing Germany treating migrant workers like shit...
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Nov 23 2022 12:55pm
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I posted a thread years ago showing Germany treating migrant workers like shit...


got a link? if true and im not saying it isnt THAT is hypocritical.

buying gas from Qatar isn't.

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Nov 23 2022 01:01pm
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got a link? if true and im not saying it isnt THAT is hypocritical.

buying gas from Qatar isn't.

i hope ive helped you.


The thread is years old so it's buried I'm not gonna dig it up but you can find all you need or check this https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-modern-slavery-at-the-heart-of-german-slaughterhouse-outbreak/a-53396228

Secondly hypocrisy is broader than you believe, see bolded. You don't need to help, I know what it means. Thx for trying though.

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Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another or the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform. In moral psychology, it is the failure to follow one's own expressed moral rules and principles.
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Nov 23 2022 01:08pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 23 2022 02:01pm)
The thread is years old so it's buried I'm not gonna dig it up but you can find all you need or check this https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-modern-slavery-at-the-heart-of-german-slaughterhouse-outbreak/a-53396228

Secondly hypocrisy is broader than you believe, see bolded. You don't need to help, I know what it means. Thx for trying though.


so to summarize: german business employs slave labor in a slaughter house, german govt criticizes qatari immigrant slave labor.

your issue in this is you're not able to identify subgroups logically. you just blob together "germans" without separating govt, corporations, private citizens, etc.

the closest you get in this case is govt inaction pre-outbreak, but then they shut it down and addressed the issue.
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Nov 23 2022 01:20pm
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so to summarize: german business employs slave labor in a slaughter house, german govt criticizes qatari immigrant slave labor.

your issue in this is you're not able to identify subgroups logically. you just blob together "germans" without separating govt, corporations, private citizens, etc.

the closest you get in this case is govt inaction pre-outbreak, but then they shut it down and addressed the issue.


I posted one example. Migrant workers are exploited on a large scale from truck drivers to slaughterhouse workers.

And you missed something --> the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform

Telling Qatar they suck because of human rights issues then coming for gas deals is hypocritical.
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Nov 23 2022 01:34pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 23 2022 02:20pm)
I posted one example. Migrant workers are exploited on a large scale from truck drivers to slaughterhouse workers.

And you missed something --> the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform

Telling Qatar they suck because of human rights issues then coming for gas deals is hypocritical.


so you think buying gas purports a moral failure?

you're having quite the hard time with this my man. if the govt was personally exploiting slave labor, then yes that's hypocritical. even if they failed to police immigrant exploitation they knew existed, 100% hypocrtiical. and THOSE factors likely do exist, and they're hypocrites for that. buying gas doesnt make them hypocrites. especially given the lack of available other alternatives that they have and the fact that they're only going to qatar because russia shit the bed. im not a gas expert, but it sounds like there's not a lot of other options for them from morally acceptable nations.
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Nov 23 2022 01:52pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 23 2022 08:34pm)
so you think buying gas purports a moral failure?

you're having quite the hard time with this my man. if the govt was personally exploiting slave labor, then yes that's hypocritical. even if they failed to police immigrant exploitation they knew existed, 100% hypocrtiical. and THOSE factors likely do exist, and they're hypocrites for that. buying gas doesnt make them hypocrites. especially given the lack of available other alternatives that they have and the fact that they're only going to qatar because russia shit the bed. im not a gas expert, but it sounds like there's not a lot of other options for them from morally acceptable nations.


May come as a surprise for you but all Wester governments are hypocrites buddy

Biden shitting on Saudi Arabia for killing the journalist while during Biden's time in politics the CIA killed how many? How many attempts on Fidel Castro alone? LMAO

I like this example cuz when Biden showed up for oil this summer, the crown prince seemed to remember something about that lol and Biden came home empty handed

Qatar should've treated the Gers and French the same way, fuck em

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Nov 23 2022 02:18pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 23 2022 02:52pm)
May come as a surprise for you but all Wester governments are hypocrites buddy

Biden shitting on Saudi Arabia for killing the journalist while during Biden's time in politics the CIA killed how many? How many attempts on Fidel Castro alone? LMAO

I like this example cuz when Biden showed up for oil this summer, the crown prince seemed to remember something about that lol and Biden came home empty handed

Qatar should've treated the Gers and French the same way, fuck em


it wouldnt surprise me at all, im very critical of western govts and their global policies. thats something ive told you a lot, u jus like to forget it and pretend im a globalist lefty.
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Nov 23 2022 02:34pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 23 Nov 2022 21:18)
it wouldnt surprise me at all, im very critical of western govts and their global policies. thats something ive told you a lot, u jus like to forget it and pretend im a globalist lefty.


It's easy:

" I will bitch, criticize absolutely everything i can, involving globalism, banks, politics (eventually sad lefties and gays). I'm a proud anti-all and I will put everyone in the same bag and laugh at you "
"I will always have the right role " " I am very intelligent "

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Nov 23 2022 02:42pm
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It's easy:

" I will bitch, criticize absolutely everything i can, involving globalism, banks, politics (eventually sad lefties and gays). I'm a proud anti-all and I will put everyone in the same bag and laugh at you "
"I will always have the right role " " I am very intelligent "

:zzz:


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