Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 18 2022 04:07pm)

No I don't
And I am not sure if the number is real. But I am not saying that it isn't.
It takes a lot of effort to detain 13,000 people and out of 13,000 people who were supposedly arrested , how many were released on day one or the first week and how many were actually detained for the longest time.
I don't talk about things that I do not have evidence .

And forced sterilization is bad because it is a human right whether you are an idiot or genius to reproduce.

That being said my government have a controversial sterilization program in the 1980s but it wasn't forced , it was encouraged with incentives.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 18 2022 02:07pm)

No I don't
And I am not sure if the number is real. But I am not saying that it isn't.
It takes a lot of effort to detain 13,000 people and out of 13,000 people who were supposedly arrested , how many were released on day one or the first week and how many were actually detained for the longest time.
I don't talk about things that I do not have evidence .

And forced sterilization is bad because it is a human right whether you are an idiot or genius to reproduce.

That being said my government have a controversial sterilization program in the 1980s but it wasn't forced , it was encouraged with incentives.

Quote (Superman @ 19 Nov 2022 05:12)

It's not. If their government gave them a taste of the level of freedom we have in every state, they'd revolt.

We are not an Anarchist country because we have laws. The majority of local citizens elect officials that draft and pass laws for their communities. Citizens also vote for certain laws directly. I live in rural Idaho and I certain rights that the majority of citizens voted for and enjoy here. The majority of California's citizens voted for the opposite. That's one reason why Federal law always supersedes state law. Sometimes, states take it too far.

This is very simplified because people are more complicated than the following...

Hypothetically, you are a high ranking Chinese government official.

Anarchist country: I could go to your home and murder you with a gun with zero repercussions.

Free Country: I'm still free to go to your home and murder you with a gun, but I'll face consequences if it can be proven. I'm presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

Communist Country: I could still go to your house and kill you. It will be harder to do because the Chinese probably doesn't allow just anyone to have a gun. They also slaughter me and probably my family too with no due process.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 18 2022 04:11pm)

China have a 1.4 Billion Population.
My country in the 80s have 2.5 million.

That guy was the head honcho. A few hundred was jailed from anywhere between 6 months to 8 years.

That being said where is your source for 100k plus who are jailed for such a long time.

Quote (thesnipa @ 19 Nov 2022 05:15)

so does that mean you think there are NOT prisons in China housing specifically muslims from Xianjang?

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 18 2022 02:18pm)

First thing first if anyone still think that China is a communist country like what it used to be in the 60s or what the Soviets was , they really need to check again.
I see it as state own authoritarian capitalism country.

And no you can't go into a house and kill people in China now without any due process and repercussions.

In regards of freedom like that in the states , not just China, a lot of East Asians don't appreciate that especially in our current era.
We are still conservatives and at times more conservatives than Republicans in the states , We are not ready to be force to call someone an Apache Helicopter just because he/she/they/them think they are and if we don't we are in trouble.

Quote (Superman @ 19 Nov 2022 05:20)

That's exactly why it's not the rest of the worlds responsibility. It's not up to us to decide. If the Chinese people ever do decide to revolt, I'm sure the rest of the world would help them if they ask.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 18 2022 04:20pm)

You mean separatist or Al Qaeda backed terrorist.

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ Nov 18 2022 04:18pm)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

Up to 1.8 million (2020 Zenz estimate)
1 million – 3 million over a period of several years (2019 Schriver estimate)

Relevant sources are linked directly on Wikipedia as always.