You already tried that in Hong Kong.
When the National Security Law was established a lot of actors left Hong Kong abruptly.

The Jiang Faction worked with the United States when Xi took power. I think by now if you have been up to date with the China news since 12 to 15 years back, all these happened only when Xi took power in 2014.
It didn't happened during Jiang's rule and it didn't happen during Hu Jintao's rule.

No matter how destablize China will be it is still moving forward as it should because it is a one party system.
The US on the other hand cannot move things forward and fix her system due to party politics.

The only bi partisan policies they can agree on is foreign polices.
banks locking down, real estate and mortgage crisis don't really destablize China.
We have to ask ourselves this question, did the Crisis in 2008 destablize USA? I don't think it did.

China like USA can only be screwed over completely from within.
When I mention destablizing China , it would meant that USA wins over Asean and with Japan and Korea and Australia and NZ playing a hand in choking the Chinese.

Anyways, to me it is very simple.

If the current Chinese Government wins , I will make 40 to 50 Dollars out of a possible 100
If a new administration comes in , I will make 70 to 80 dollars out of a possible 100
If USA wins, I will make 80 to 90 dollars out of a possible 100.

So that is the reality of it.


This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 3 2022 11:37am

My question was will a major financial collapse much like the 2008 real estate crisis in the US cause significant internal destabilization in China?

2008 in the USA was bad, many people lost homes, real estate companies went out of business, etc. But we didnt have tanks guarding banks.

In Soviet Russia we have banks guarding tanks

The tanks guarding banks is a fake news that is already debunked.
As to whether it will destabilize china internally, no.
Because it affects the rural and tier 3 or 4 cities.

It will affect maybe 10 million or more households but that is a small amount.
And by now you should realize how the Chinese government works. They will force donations out of billionaires to solve the problems. They already did that to Jack Ma.

So on top of the governments coffer they will make the rich dudes "donate".

When Trump spoke out against fake news in the Western media, he did have a very valid point.

The tanks were a yearly exercise in Rizhao china in Shandong.
The bank crisis is in Henan.

Of course with the media we are facing now, tank picture spreads like wild fire.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 3 2022 12:19pm

Royal Flush

Maybe i'm just naïve or was too young to see it before but the state our the mainstream media is really bad. People that can rub 2 brain cells together can blatantly see that reporting nowadays is just a way to drive a narrative or control perspective. Whether it's war, economy, societal issues, everything really. I wonder if it's this bad everywhere globally.

Just need to fact check everytime. But it is annoying...because once MSM report or report in a way for example : Did China send Tanks to protect banks?

With that statement it already set the tone.
Even if they correct the statement after, the damage is already done.

thanks for the info, tbh i dont read up much on china's day to day news because its a double blunted sword. chinese media lies, and western media lies, so you have bad info coming from both sides and its hard to discern truth.

typically i find a big reddit thread, toss a !remindme 3 days on it, and come back to read the top comment that provides analysis. didnt do it on the tank/bank story tho clearly.

I think the latter part you mentioned is what I'm really talking about.

It's easy to find out if some objective statement is true or not. There were either tanks in place X or there were not. But when the media injects opinions, tone, or a spin to try and make the reader feel one way or the other, it's a lot more subtle and nearly impossible to fact check because at this point its not really just reporting facts but providing 'analysis'.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 4 2022 08:02am