Quote (Goomshill @ May 2 2022 12:47am)

Redefining "gender", redefining "racism", redefining "fascism", redefining "science"
How many times on PARD have I said that arguing by redefining word is profoundly stupid? Should pretty much be my signature at this point. The purpose of words is to describe concepts, the concepts don't change when you change a word, all you do is obfuscate. Chromosomes decide whether a child is born a boy or a girl, discriminating against someone because of their skin color is racist, ultra authoritarian nationalism is fascist, and feelings don't change facts. And you'll never be a woman.

Quote (Goomshill @ May 1 2022 10:47pm)

Redefining "gender", redefining "racism", redefining "fascism", redefining "science"
How many times on PARD have I said that arguing by redefining word is profoundly stupid? Should pretty much be my signature at this point. The purpose of words is to describe concepts, the concepts don't change when you change a word, all you do is obfuscate. Chromosomes decide whether a child is born a boy or a girl, discriminating against someone because of their skin color is racist, ultra authoritarian nationalism is fascist, and feelings don't change facts. And you'll never be a woman.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 2 2022 05:40pm)

Your education did you a great disservice if words changing over time, especially political words, is a new concept to you.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 2 May 2022 04:14)

You basically said we should prioritize our own ethnonational group to have children rather than allowing immigration. If you don't see how that's pretty obvious a fascist-lite sentiment then you don't really know what fascism is.

Quote (Surfpunk @ May 1 2022 11:23pm)

Jeebus, the fear of brown people in here is palpable.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 2 2022 06:16am)

There's actually a very simple argument to be made for favoring having children over importing immigrants to stabilize one's contry's demographics: it's more reliable. Children born to native parents will automatically pick up their country's culture, values, education and all that. If born in sufficient number, they will almost by definition be good enough to keep the country going.

By contrast, if you try to solve a demographic crisis via immigration, you rely on a sufficient number compatible immigrants being available/wanting to come to your country. The more distant the culture and socialization/upbringing of immigrants, the greater the risk that they fail to assimilate or don't actually have the required qualifications and work ethic. In any case, the integration of foreigners binds resources and causes friction. And with more and more emerging countries seeing declines in their birthrate, the well will dry up in the forseeable future anyway. Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, China - all these places will hit their peak population within the next 20 years and enter population decline. Once a country realizes that plugging its demographic holes with immigrants doesn't work anymore, it will be too late to turn things around by investing in domestic families and birth rates.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 2 May 2022 10:16)

There's actually a very simple argument to be made for favoring having children over importing immigrants to stabilize one's contry's demographics: it's more reliable. Children born to native parents will automatically pick up their country's culture, values, education and all that. If born in sufficient number, they will almost by definition be good enough to keep the country going.

By contrast, if you try to solve a demographic crisis via immigration, you rely on a sufficient number compatible immigrants being available/wanting to come to your country. The more distant the culture and socialization/upbringing of immigrants, the greater the risk that they fail to assimilate or don't actually have the required qualifications and work ethic. In any case, the integration of foreigners binds resources and causes friction. And with more and more emerging countries seeing declines in their birthrate, the well will dry up in the forseeable future anyway. Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, China - all these places will hit their peak population within the next 20 years and enter population decline. Once a country realizes that plugging its demographic holes with immigrants doesn't work anymore, it will be too late to turn things around by investing in domestic families and birth rates.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 1 2022 09:49pm)

A nation is not "your extended family". You're trying to do fascism-lite with this argument.

From an economic perspective it is much more feasible to have immigrants come in. Natives you have to support for 18 years before they are productive. Which is why virtually all immigrants are a net positive to society in terms of tax and economic input.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 1 2022 09:19pm)

Do you think republicans will stop the LGBT acceptance and increase the number of christians in US ?

Quote (JessiWan @ May 1 2022 11:41pm)

Then you need to prove that capitalism is what caused your country to be great. The way I see, your country is great because (among many things) that people work hard. However, capitalism is not solely about being hardworking. There are ways to make money without working hard.

Anyway I see that making money is of primary importance to you. I am sorry to hear that you are such a soulless, materialistic person. If you could make a lot of money selling your sister into sex work, would you do it too? Remember, you could make a lot of money.



This tells me you have no love for your fellow Americans. You want them to be replaced by immigrants. I am sorry to hear that you are such a psychopath.




Why are you only concerned about money and profit? Are you a Jew?



Not wanting to be undercut by immigrants is not the same as being unwilling to work hard. Its like I said, there is balance to be struck. What's the point of busting one's ass just to make money, if he is sacrificing his home life and wellbeing? You seem to have this very profit-centric, myopic view about human existence. You think everyone's mission in life is to make money and if they don't, then they need to be replaced. This is both sick and bone-chilling.



Did I say bragging about the legacy of one's ancestors is the way to be number 1? If I didn't, why are you making shit up and attributing it to me?



This goes back to my question to you earlier, which you dodged. Would you want to work 14 hours a day just to stay competitive in the job market against immigrants? And please dont say how you would just "adapt" or "go back to school" or "work harder", cause immigrants would also do all of those things too and the end result is still the same. You'd have to compete to an insane degree just to survive.



People who are unwilling to compete against desperate, money-starved immigrants are not "betas". I am sorry to hear that you have so much hate in your heart for your fellow Americans. Your view on human life is also very chillingly Darwinian. Survival of the economically fittest. You are ill.



Except I wasn't really asking you to choose. I gave you the scenario to show that you are guilty of presenting a false dichotomy (do you know what this is?). It's not such that we could only choose between a hard-working Indian and white trash. For you to even bring this up, it shows how dishonest you are. It also shows that you have an extreme level of hatred for your fellow whites.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 1 2022 10:03pm)

Damn man you are insanely desparate.

Even if I were to accept that fascism as a term has roots dating back thousands of years (it doesn't really, it's more like 150 years old at the absolute earliest) that doesn't mean jack shit. Words change all the time.

Sorry your tiny brain doesn't understand that there can be a stark difference between what a word means now and what it meant 2000 years ago, but today fascism is deeply intertwined with ethnonationalism, not simply nationalism.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ May 2 2022 07:45am)

You forgot the third way, that a good part of the immigrants integrate themselves, generation after generation.
Yet we have to say this fails much more when you start to put too much of them directly into ghetto without an integration structures (social security, decently paid job opportunities, Ids, learning national language etc)
Sweden failed hard at this game: they took too much, too fast.