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Apr 14 2022 10:42am
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 14 2022 11:40am)
Nobody is trying to be cruel to trans. We just don't think we need to bend over backwards to cater to their whim, or in the case of women's sports, loosen the definition of woman just so that trans women can feel included.


The OP is absolutely trying to be cruel to trans people. His literal JSP identity consists of shitposting anti-trans topics.
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Apr 14 2022 10:44am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 14 2022 12:40pm)
5 out of 100k is JUST AIS. There are a lot of other variations that make that percentage a lot higher than .00005% in total. But yeah, ignore Statistics 101.


Statistical anomalies are called anomalies for a reason. People with various types of these syndromes are not viable and often can't pass on their genes (that's the ultimate signal from nature that it was a mistake). So you need a mid sized city to find 1-2 of these people and much of the time they are infertile, got it, well rid of categories cause of this.

Your argument boils down to "well it's possible that an arm can grow out of a persons skull therefore lets rewrite anatomy books". Completely anti-science perspective.
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Apr 14 2022 10:46am
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Statistical anomalies are called anomalies for a reason. People with various types of these syndromes are not viable and often can't pass on their genes (that's the ultimate signal from nature that it was a mistake). So you need a mid sized city to find 1-2 of these people and much of the time they are infertile, got it, well rid of categories cause of this.

Your argument boils down to "well it's possible that an arm can grow out of a persons skull therefore lets rewrite anatomy books". Completely anti-science perspective.


LOLOK

Your argument is basically "pay no attention to the variations behind the curtain".
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Apr 14 2022 10:48am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 14 2022 12:46pm)
LOLOK

Your argument is basically "pay no attention to the variations behind the curtain".


Bro I'm acknowledging variations. I'm just not going to discard established science so to contort reality into a pretzel so I can justify nonsensical takes like it's okay for a biological man to curb stomp women in women's sports cuz it's all a spectrum after all.
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Apr 14 2022 10:54am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 14 2022 05:42pm)
The OP is absolutely trying to be cruel to trans people. His literal JSP identity consists of shitposting anti-trans topics.


which is 1000% what is needed. thank you OP.
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Apr 14 2022 10:55am
Quote (JessiWan @ Apr 14 2022 11:40am)
Nobody is trying to be cruel to trans. We just don't think we need to bend over backwards to cater to their whim, or in the case of women's sports, loosen the definition of woman just so that trans women can feel included.


Plenty of people are trying to be cruel to trans. You specifically might not be, but A LOT of people are being cruel for the sake of it.
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Apr 14 2022 10:57am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Apr 14 2022 11:24am)
The propensity for being trans is far higher than 1/100,000. Once we stop actively discriminating, I suspect it's going to get as high as one or two percent.

The real issue is that well-meaning centrists are eating propaganda from ben shapiro types who's only real agenda is cruelty. As a result you get people who have never met a trans person suddenly caring very deeply about how unfair it is, even though they never touched womens sports and have no clue to what extent the issue exists.


Are you saying in a world with no discrimination 1 out of 100 people would choose to live life as the oppisite sex of what they were born?

or are we lumping together m2f, f2m, nonbinaries, fem cis males, mas cis females, etc?

honestly i think even if we lump all together you're still off by about 10x, maybe 1/1,000. and the topic is fairly moot, you cant get rid of all that discrimination without the social construct of society influencing more people to be trans than what the natural rate may be. its actually something some gay men talk about, society pushing young gay men into being trans in some cases by misdiagnosis.
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Apr 14 2022 11:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 14 2022 11:57am)
Are you saying in a world with no discrimination 1 out of 100 people would choose to live life as the oppisite sex of what they were born?

or are we lumping together m2f, f2m, nonbinaries, fem cis males, mas cis females, etc?

honestly i think even if we lump all together you're still off by about 10x, maybe 1/1,000. and the topic is fairly moot, you cant get rid of all that discrimination without the social construct of society influencing more people to be trans than what the natural rate may be. its actually something some gay men talk about, society pushing young gay men into being trans in some cases by misdiagnosis.


I think that's pretty silly. Along the lines of "they're converting your kids to be gay".

It depends how you define gender then. Men might wear dresses to feel pretty but not identify as a woman. Personally I think we can largely get rid of the categories all together. Let people wear and do what they want and not worry about labels
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Apr 14 2022 11:02am
Quote (Surfpunk @ Apr 14 2022 12:42pm)
The OP is absolutely trying to be cruel to trans people. His literal JSP identity consists of shitposting anti-trans topics.


I mean, same could be said bout people who been crying bout Trumps for the last 2 years. There's people who live their life hating on something/someone that doesn't make a difference. That's what i often mean by people have too many time on their hand wasting it on shit that doesn't matter versus learning new crafts/living in the real world only to hate on people online and spewing garbage on the internet to people who probably don't give a flying fuck at the end of the day aKa wasting important limited time on Earth.

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Apr 14 2022 11:03am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 14 2022 11:48am)
Bro I'm acknowledging variations. I'm just not going to discard established science so to contort reality into a pretzel so I can justify nonsensical takes like it's okay for a biological man to curb stomp women in women's sports cuz it's all a spectrum after all.


Nobody is saying that making them a category outside of the binary automatically gives them all the societal stuff you just said.

So calm your tits and just talk about the issue.
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